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Subject: Re: Universe As Hologram
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Date: Fri, 2-Oct-87 08:43:36 EDT
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In article <1441@clash.rutgers.edu> masticol@clash.rutgers.edu (Stephen P. Masticola) writes:
>In article <7402@ism780c.UUCP> jimh@ism780c.UUCP (Jim Hori) writes:
>
>> in the September 22 Village Voice titled "The Universe As Hologram"
>> [Stuff...]
>> Any responses?
>
>I'd like to hear about a reference to this, and would especially like
> [Stuff...]
>There are certain phenomena that propogate faster than light -
>travelling waves in a waveguide are one of them, I believe. But you
>can't transmit information over them. My guess is that Aspect might
 
I don't have time to give a complete answer (mine and, I believe, that
of most physicists) to this, so I'll give a super quick incomplete
contribution that will add to the immense piles of verbiage on all of
this -

1)  Aspect's results are believed.  The experiment was the culmination
    of a whole bunch of similar experiments to test QM.

2)  The results CONFIRM quantum mechanics and rule out most any hidden
    variable theory that is local (i.e., no faster than light).  As most
    people other than Bohm expected.

3)  You MAY NOT send signals faster than light using this method.  No
    way.  I repeat, no information is sent faster than the speed of
    light (as far as anyone knows, of course, as always; maybe wrong
    someday -the point is as it is understood consistently: no way).  If
    you like the Copenhagen interpretation (I don't), the
    wave function "collapses" instantaneously over all space, but it
    doesn't mean anything (like waveguides, or swinging flashlights
    at Andromeda).

4)  The Village Voice is fun to read (my opinion only) and this
    article was a blast to read.  Great laughs.  (One example:
    holograms are in the whole plate, sure, but they get fuzzier
    images if you chop them up.)  Aspect's results are in some
    boring journal; I forget which one.

-- 
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`Aren't you in my class in elementary topology?'
She licked the raspberry cone she was holding and said,
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