Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!bloom-beacon!oberon!cit-vax!ucla-cs!zen!ucbvax!decvax!linus!philabs!aecom!diaz From: diaz@aecom.YU.EDU (Dizzy Dan Diaz) Newsgroups: sci.bio,sci.research Subject: Re: Dugway Biowarfare Facility--a clarification Message-ID: <1365@aecom.YU.EDU> Date: Sat, 10-Oct-87 13:59:17 EDT Article-I.D.: aecom.1365 Posted: Sat Oct 10 13:59:17 1987 Date-Received: Mon, 12-Oct-87 21:48:47 EDT References: <2476@sigi.Colorado.EDU> <6535@brl-smoke.ARPA> Distribution: na Organization: Graduate School of Hard Knocks Lines: 40 Summary: The Danger of "Just Doing Research" Xref: mnetor sci.bio:720 sci.research:257 In article <6535@brl-smoke.ARPA>, gwyn@brl-smoke.ARPA (Doug Gwyn ) writes: > Like it or not, nuclear, chemical, and biological issues are extremely > important for the battlefield of today. As a minimum, a responsible > military organization MUST determine viable defenses for such agents, > which WILL BE (and to a limited degree HAVE BEEN) used in actual battles. > Even to investigate defensive measures, some research has to be done to > determine possible offensive threats. That is NOT to say that such > research should lead to the stockpiling of large quantities of such > offensive munitions, as has been stupidly done in the past. Despite the existence of treaties forbidding the development and use of biological weapons in combat, the facist forces in the Reagan regime insist on their development for "purely defensive" reasons. As Doug Gwyn has aptly stated in his posting, the stockpiling of munitions as a result of such research should not be permitted. The problem with the way military research has usually worked is that what begins as defensive research usually turns offensive. Facist Reagan's "Star Wars" is a prime example of a "defensive" system with the potential to become offensive at the flip of a switch. This is why the Soviets are fearful of its development, and why we should fight it as well. Although I think him a bit extreme, I consider Jeremy Rifkin a "voice in the wilderness" appropriately asking us to look at where we're headed and decide if that's where we really want to go. Molecular biology is no exception. If we are serious about our opposition to the development of biological weapons, then the research community might consider taking steps to hinder this work in the spirit of opposition to South Africa's repressive Apartheid system. It may be that we will want to reconsider consulting with or giving advice to those engaged in such research. As Tony has pointed out, many of our friends in the physics and computer science communities have sold out to DOD and are now engaged in the development of new weapons for world annihilation. The biological community may well be next. -- ....* dn/dx = Dan Diaz (diaz@aecom.yu.edu) 212 430 9476 ~..|.> Department of Wasting Taxpayers' Money on Useless Research *\../ Albert Einstein College of Medicine and Bar & Grill