Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!hoptoad!amdahl!uunet!nuchat!steve From: steve@nuchat.UUCP Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk Subject: Re: The CyberTest Message-ID: <407@nuchat.UUCP> Date: Sat, 17-Oct-87 14:06:53 EDT Article-I.D.: nuchat.407 Posted: Sat Oct 17 14:06:53 1987 Date-Received: Mon, 19-Oct-87 04:39:52 EDT References: <6413@apple.UUCP> <3099@uwmcsd1.UUCP> Organization: Public Access - Houston, Tx Lines: 37 Keywords: AI Turing Summary: about the Turing test In article <3099@uwmcsd1.UUCP>, cmaag@csd4.milw.wisc.edu (Christopher N Maag): > In article <6413@apple.UUCP> grady@apple.UUCP (Grady Ward) writes: > > O.K. So the Turing test can tell you when AI's are > >indistinguishable from humans. > Being fairly new to the genre (I've only read Gibson up to this point), > could someone expand a little on the "Turing Test"? Was it actually > devised by Turing? Please e-mail if you don't feel it is of general > interest. Alan Turing proposed the test which is now named for him in the context of a debate in the mathematics community over just what artificial intelligence _meant_. He did not intend it as a test for AI but more as a definition of it. I don't have that lecture with me, so I paraphrase: The sceptic sits before a teleprinter. The testor is free to attach the printer to a similar device with a human operator or to the mechanism under test. If the sceptic cannot determine which is the machine and which is the human, the machine can be said to be intelligent. It was at one time said that intelligence was the ability to make choices. As soon as digital systems started makeing choices, the definition was narrowed. Each time the definition is met by a computer intelligence is redifined. I wish I could remember some of the other difinitions, but we've been through 3 or 4 widely accepted definitions. Turing's test will probably not be redefined when it is successfully met, but unlike Alan noone today expects that to happen any time soon. _The_Enigma_, a biography of Alan Turing by (first name?) Hodges is recommended. -- Steve Nuchia | [...] but the machine would probably be allowed no mercy. uunet!nuchat!steve | In other words then, if a machine is expected to be (713) 334 6720 | infallible, it cannot be intelligent. - Alan Turing, 1947