Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP
Path: utzoo!hoptoad!amdcad!decwrl!labrea!mcnc!rutgers!husc6!ut-sally!brad
From: brad@ut-sally.UUCP
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: The CyberTest
Message-ID: <9319@ut-sally.UUCP>
Date: Mon, 19-Oct-87 13:16:07 EDT
Article-I.D.: ut-sally.9319
Posted: Mon Oct 19 13:16:07 1987
Date-Received: Wed, 21-Oct-87 01:18:15 EDT
References: <6413@apple.UUCP> <3099@uwmcsd1.UUCP> <407@nuchat.UUCP>
Reply-To: brad@ut-sally.UUCP (blumenthal @ home with the armadillos)
Organization: U. Texas CS Dept., Austin, Texas
Lines: 52
Keywords: AI Turing
Summary: Turing's actual quote

In article <407@nuchat.UUCP> steve@nuchat.UUCP (Steve Nuchia) writes:
>In article <3099@uwmcsd1.UUCP>, cmaag@csd4.milw.wisc.edu (Christopher N Maag):
>> Being fairly new to the genre (I've only read Gibson up to this point), 
>> could someone expand a little on the "Turing Test"?  

For your edification (quoted without permission, but for what I hope
constitutes "fair use"):

"	I propose to consider the queston 'Can machines think?' ....
Instead of attempting ... a definition, I shall replace the question
by another which is closely related to it and is expressed in
relatively unambiguous words.
	The new form of the problem can be described in terms of a
game which we call the 'imitation game.'  It is played with three
people, a man (A), a woman (B), and an interrogator (C) who may be
of either sex.  The interrogator stays in a room aprt from the other
two.  The object of the game for the interregator is to determine
which of the other two is the man and which is the woman.  He knows
them by labels X and Y....
	In order that tones of voice may not help the interrogator
the answers should be written, or better still, typewritten.  The
ideal arrangement is to have a teleprinter communicating between the
two rooms.
	We now ask the question, 'What will happen when a machine
take the part of A in the game?'  Will the interrogator decide
wrongly as often as when the game is played between a man and a
woman?'  These questions replace our original, 'Can machines think?'"

"Computng Machinery and Intellience," _Mind_, Vol. LIX, No. 286,
(1950).  Reprinted by permission in _Minds and Machines_ ed. Alan
Ross Anderson, Prentice Hall, 1964.

>It was at one time said that intelligence was the ability to make
>choices.

I think part of the point of the imitation game is the demonstration
of some ability to consider someone else's position for the purposes
of discourse and to respond in a way that shows that consideration
(regardless of whether that person's position was taken into account
for reasons of deceit or otherwise).

>
>_The_Enigma_, a biography of Alan Turing by (first name?) Hodges
>is recommended.

Seconded.

>-- 
>Steve Nuchia	   | [...] but the machine would probably be allowed no mercy.


Brad Blumenthal  {ihnp4,harvard}!ut-sally!brad || brad@sally.utexas.edu