Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!hoptoad!amdahl!ames!rutgers!nysernic!itsgw!leah!uwmcsd1!uwvax!puff!mading From: mading@puff.UUCP Newsgroups: alt.drugs,misc.legal,alt.flame Subject: Re: Why call 'em dirtballs Message-ID: <1196@puff.wisc.edu> Date: Sun, 1-Nov-87 20:35:04 EST Article-I.D.: puff.1196 Posted: Sun Nov 1 20:35:04 1987 Date-Received: Tue, 3-Nov-87 01:14:46 EST References: <1136@puff.wisc.edu> <23455COK@PSUVMA> <591@auscso.UUCP> <602@auscso.UUCP> Distribution: na Organization: U of Wisconsin CS Dept Lines: 87 Xref: hoptoad alt.drugs:448 misc.legal:3247 alt.flame:453 In article <602@auscso.UUCP>, johnm@auscso.UUCP (John B. Meaders) writes: > > I will continue to call illegal drug users dirtballs, because they are. > What do I know of the situation? First I admit to the occasional drink of > alcohol. While on active duty in the Army I had occasion to witness what > drugs did to the performance of friends and other individuals. They no > longer car about doing their jobs, they came to work late, they went > AWOL, etc. Drugs weren't the sole cause of this by any means, but they > were a substanial reason. What was the most prevalent drug used? Pot. > Yep, that drug most of you think is so harmless, was a cause of this. As > was Alcohol (more so admittedly than Pot), LSD, Coke, etc. The fact is > Alcohol is legal. The others aren't. I'm not for legalization either because > that is a cop out. Why do you need a chemical to alter your "perceptions." > Did you ever try running, the brain is very effective at releasing internal > chemicals that will make you high. > I admit to an occasional beer now and then, but I do not use any other drugs, except caffiene in soda and chocolate (which I don't have much of) and drugs prescribed by a doctor. I also use running to get high. What I really enjoy is running and listening to my walkman at the same time. Of course, I make sure to run only in residential areas and in parks;not on the sidewalks of busy streets while wearing my walkman. > > Why the term dirtballs? One night I was riding with my friend (who is a > Dallas Police Officer) when we got a burglary in progcall. When we [text deleted] > gone. Nothing was taken that could be determined. The sickening reality > was that the slime who broke in had used her place as a shooting gallery. > For those who don't know, a shooting gallery is a place where degenerates > go to shoot Methamphetamines into their veins (also known as Crank). > There was little spatters of blood all over the place. What kind of sickos > would do this? You got it, illegal drug users! Drunk drivers are no better, > they are also included in my broad generalization. This only deals with > the abusers. What about casual use? Like I said Alcohol is legal. > Since the others aren't, I certainly don't condone their use. I also don't > condone legalization, since this is a cop out to the problem. These are > immature people who can't deal with life, so they hide out by using chemicals. > This wouldn't be a problem if they were only destroying their lives. But > they aren't, there are family members afffected, and innocent bystanders > (eg victims of drunk drivers, victims of burglars supporting a habit). > Agreed. Last night I saw an accident just outside the apartment building where I live. Three people were injured in a truck going through an intersection witha flashing yellow light in his direction. A guy in a Ford Bronco ran a flashingred light and was hit by the truck. The driver of the Bronco was quite drunk; his car suffered little danage. The pickup truck was quite damaged, and the three injured were in the pickup truck. When the ambulance arrived, one guy wasnot moving; the paramedics put a white sheet over him. I think anyone who killssomeone while driving drunk whould get the death penalty. > > What do you suggest? Legalization? Ok, who is going to support the users? > We are! How? Either as victims of crime or through our tax dollars. > Regardless of what you think, welfare doesn't work the way it was meant to. > And I'll be damned if I am going to support a bunch of junkies through my > tax dollars. Personally, I think society is the problem (as has been pointed > out). No, I have no answers on how to fix society, but legalizing these > drugs isn't the answer. > Absolutely correct! One possible way to fix society is to encourage children toidolize the good sports stars who do not use drugs. Major league sports should test all athletes for drugs before they begin their first professional game in the sport and afterwards, test only for cause. Any positive test should result in banishment from professional sports, with an appeal process for those ath- letes who believe they are drug-free. The same goes for television stars. Any actor who tests positive for drugs should be kicked out of the actor's union. If he is on a major tv show and is fired for drug use, let his character die of a drug overdose. This would give young people the message--DRUGS KILL. And thesame goes for movie stars. Also, no tv show should be allowed to show drug use unless there is a warning before the show. Schools should take care to inform parents what tv shows will show questionable material (drug use, profanity, sex,crime, and immoral themes). I also believe in allowing anything to be broadcaston tv, but only if a warning is given before the program, on tv, in the ads, andin a letter to parents. I also believe that a health class should be mandantoryfor all school children, which should teach about what is wrong with drinking, smoking, teen sex, and drug use. I would like to see every movie that depicts drug use positively given an X or A rating (A for adults only). As for welfare, I would like to see a complete reform in the welfare system. I know this is straying from alt.drugs, but I just need to say this. I believe that those on welfare should be required to work for their benifits, welfare recipients without a high school diploma should be required to get one, and children whose parents are on welfare should be required to stay in school to get their share of welfare benifits for the month. You say, "The kid could manipulate his mother to get his way by threatening to skip school." I say to that: "If he skips school, let him starve for a month. If a mother is not getting enough welfare because of one brat who likes to play hooky, don't make his siblings suffer. Give them enough to eat, but let him starve. If he doesn't want to go to school, he can work for his food." And welfare recipientsshould not be allowed to purchase lottery tickets, alcohol, tobacco, or spend their welfare money on horse or dog races, sporting evnets, or any other non- necessitys. The best way to control this is to require all welfare recipients to make their purchases with a automated teller machine card. Some of these welfare reforms have already been implemented in Wisconsin. Eric Mading UW-Madison CS Dept. Disclaimer: My views are independent of the University's.