Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!cmcl2!rutgers!sunybcs!boulder!hao!oddjob!gargoyle!ihnp4!homxb!genesis!odyssey!gls From: gls@odyssey.ATT.COM (g.l.sicherman) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: The Job Hunt Message-ID: <333@odyssey.ATT.COM> Date: Fri, 16-Oct-87 08:56:21 EDT Article-I.D.: odyssey.333 Posted: Fri Oct 16 08:56:21 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 17-Oct-87 23:49:49 EDT References: <15196@topaz.rutgers.edu> <1368@houdi.UUCP> <1377@houdi.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Middletown, NJ Lines: 36 > > > Mr X. goes to an employment interview and gets angry or flustered and > > > says something that causes him to be rejected. Without knowing how his > > > mind works you can conclude it was flawed. > > > > And you could be wrong. Most likely Mr. X. didn't want the job after > > all. He only wanted you to think he wanted the job. Give him credit > > for some intelligence! > > Also flawed from Mr. X's point of view. Sicherman argues that X only > seemed to get angry or flustered, in order to make sure the company > didn't make him an offer, because during the interview he decided he > didn't want a job with them. If I attributed Mr. X's actions to > intelligence I would expect him to conclude gracefully, let them make > an offer, and reject the offer, without making a bad impression on > somebody who later might be in a position to offer him a job in another > company. And I don't care whether you blame emotions or habits. You misunderstood me. I suggested not that X *seemed* to get angry, but that he genuinely got angry. Emotions are not some kind of side effect-- they serve a constructive purpose. Anger, in particular, drives away or destroys things that threaten your well-being. Most likely Mr. X wants to avoid getting a job, but wants people in general or certain people in particular to think he wants a job. It happens all the time! You're wasting your time when you pontificate to Mr. X. He's not going to tell a back-seat driver like you what he really wants. > > By this criterion, we are all flawed. > That's exactly what I meant. Well, it's a useless and insulting criterion. -- Col. G. L. Sicherman ...!ihnp4!odyssey!gls