Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!seismo!sundc!pitstop!sun!imagen!atari!portal!cup.portal.com!tony_mak_makonnen From: tony_mak_makonnen@cup.portal.com Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: The success of AI (misunderstandings) Message-ID: <1119@cup.portal.com> Date: Sun, 25-Oct-87 22:38:41 EST Article-I.D.: cup.1119 Posted: Sun Oct 25 22:38:41 1987 Date-Received: Wed, 28-Oct-87 07:29:21 EST References: <213@PT.CS.CMU.EDU> <3800013@nucsrl.UUCP> Organization: The Portal System (TM) Lines: 13 XPortal-User-Id: 1.1001.1780 this is exemplary of what happens when many perspectives enter the picture and words flow . I submit the following : It was Von Neuman himself ( I believe) who said that anything that can be calculated precisely i.e. mathematically can be done better by a computer . ( I think this should pass even by the most rabid hater of computers ) I note that man who is getting lambasted used the words computed and computational. I should think he would agree that if one began to talk of reflection , intuition and so on , the conversation would be totally different . Else are we to think that with great enough and intensive computation the machine will eventually exhibit awareness of itself as something that is .?!