Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!mit-eddie!ll-xn!ames!sdcsvax!ucbvax!HT.AI.MIT.EDU!hamscher From: hamscher@HT.AI.MIT.EDU (Walter Hamscher) Newsgroups: comp.ai.digest Subject: The Success of AI Message-ID: <8710191427.AA26387@ht.ai.mit.edu> Date: Mon, 19-Oct-87 10:27:22 EDT Article-I.D.: ht.8710191427.AA26387 Posted: Mon Oct 19 10:27:22 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 24-Oct-87 14:52:52 EDT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 36 Approved: ailist@kl.sri.com Date: 17 Oct 87 22:09:05 GMT From: cbmvax!snark!eric@rutgers.edu (Eric S. Raymond) * * * I never heard of this line of research being followed up by anyone but Doug Lenat himself, and I've never been able to figure out why. He later wrote a program called EURISKO that (among other things) won that year's Trillion-Credit Squadron tournament (this is a space wargame related to the _Traveller_ role-playing game) and designed an ingenious fundamental component for VLSI logic. I think all this was in '82. See Lenat & J.S. Brown in AI Journal volume 23 #3, 1984: "Why AM and EURISKO Appear to Work". The punchline of the article (briefly) is that AM seems to have succeeded in elementary set theory because its own representation structures (i.e., lists), were particularly well suited to reasoning about sets. It started breaking down at exactly the places where its representation was inadequate for the concepts. For example, there was no obvious way to move from its representation of the number n as a list of length n, to a positional representation that would make it more likely to discover things like logarithms. Furthermore, its operations on procedures involved local modifications to procedures expressed as list structures, and as long as the procedures were compact these "mutations" were likely to produce interesting new behavior, but as the procedures get more complex, arbitrary random local modifications had a vanishingly low success ratio. Hence it would seem that direction to go from this insight is to make programs that can learn new representations. There are probably not enough people working on that. But anyway this is getting off the subject, which is whether AI has had any successes. Whether you want to count AM as a success is half-empty / half-full issue; the field surely learned something from it, but it surely hasn't learned esuRockw