Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!mit-eddie!uw-beaver!ssc-vax!bcsaic!rwojcik From: rwojcik@bcsaic.UUCP (Richard Wojcik) Newsgroups: sci.lang,comp.ai,comp.ai.neural-nets Subject: Re: Infinite alphabets - (Turing via Berke) Message-ID: <2428@bcsaic.UUCP> Date: Fri, 16-Oct-87 12:07:26 EDT Article-I.D.: bcsaic.2428 Posted: Fri Oct 16 12:07:26 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 24-Oct-87 16:15:33 EDT References: <154@Aragorn.UUCP> <114400001@exunido.UUCP> Reply-To: rwojcik@bcsaic.UUCP (Richard Wojcik) Distribution: na Organization: Boeing Computer Services AI Center, Seattle Lines: 10 Xref: mnetor sci.lang:1603 comp.ai:950 comp.ai.neural-nets:21 There seems to be some confusion over the nature of writing systems for human languages. There are three 'ideal' types: logographic (word-based), syllabic, and alphabetic. Alphabetic writing systems are based on phonemes, the basic units of sound that make up words. Since most languages have between 30 and 50 phonemes, it makes little sense to talk about natural writing systems with infinite alphabets. Logographic writing systems, the least efficient type of writing, can have only as many symbols as there are words (or morphemes) in the vocabulary. If it is necessary to carry on this discussion, why not debate the size of the class of objects that written symbols map onto?