Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!rutgers!sunybcs!boulder!hao!oddjob!gargoyle!ihnp4!homxb!mtuxo!mtune!codas!killer!usl!usl-pc!jpdres10 From: jpdres10@usl-pc.UUCP (Green Eric Lee) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems Subject: Re: 8-bit byte can be sent w/o xform ? Message-ID: <91@usl-pc.UUCP> Date: Wed, 14-Oct-87 13:46:03 EDT Article-I.D.: usl-pc.91 Posted: Wed Oct 14 13:46:03 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 17-Oct-87 10:09:56 EDT References: <167100015@uiucdcsb> Organization: Univ. of Southwestern La., Lafayette Lines: 29 Distribution: Keywords: Summary: Expires: Sender: Reply-To: Followup-To: In message <167100015@uiucdcsb>, kkim@uiucdcsb.cs.uiuc.edu says: > it seems that one 7-bit ascii character is sent as one unit. >however, binary files which uses all 8 bits are usually transformed >before being sent - that is, 3 8-bit bytes are transformed to 4 6-bit >units, slightly modified (adding some number to make it non-control >character), and then sent as 4 units, not 3. 1200 baud modems have no inherent problem with sending 8-bit data. Modems do not understand parity. They just send what they get, and leave the interpretation up to the reciever. I do 8-bit transfers all the time, with both Unix and various microcomputers. If what you describe is actually happening, it is probably a "feature" of your computer and/or software. For example, many terminal servers are incapable of handling 8-bit characters, and at many installations, the dial-up modems are connected to the same terminal servers as those in the terminal rooms. Flow control is an especial culprit in the inability to handle binary data. In an attempt to get around these problems, the Kermit file transfer protocol was created. It does quoting of control codes, and, optionally, quoting of 8th-bit-set characters. This quoting mechanism in no way resembles the one you mention (i.e. breaking 3 8-bit bytes into 4 6-bit bytes), and I am at a loss to figure out exactly what the heck is actually going on in your case. Maybe more details about your installation, software, etc. would be advisable. -- Eric Green elg@usl.CSNET from BEYOND nowhere: {ihnp4,cbosgd}!killer!elg, P.O. Box 92191, Lafayette, LA 70509 {ut-sally,killer}!usl!elg "there's someone in my head, but it's not me..."