Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!hao!ames!ucbcad!ucbvax!ERNIE.BERKELEY.EDU!konstan From: konstan@ERNIE.BERKELEY.EDU (Joe Konstan) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Re: England to United States collect: on payphones! Message-ID: <21420@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: Sat, 24-Oct-87 02:08:23 EST Article-I.D.: ucbvax.21420 Posted: Sat Oct 24 02:08:23 1987 Date-Received: Mon, 26-Oct-87 04:09:16 EST References: <1658@chinet.UUCP> <227@westmark.UUCP> <2975@phri.UUCP> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: ernie.Berkeley.EDU!konstan@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Joe Konstan) Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 23 Keywords: fraud freak AT&T Approved: telecom@xx.lcs.mit.edu I remember another trick from my high school days, in NYC, which was since fixed. Back then, the pay phones (which were still a dime) were adapted to signal that money was dropped in using tones (2 for a dime, 5 for a quarter). As some people discovered, the system allowed two very easy ways to make "free" calls: 1) Dial long distance (if you want a local call, dial 1-212-telno)_ and wait for the message asking for money. 2a) Pick up the next phone, put it's receiver to the voice piece of the first, and deposit the money; then hang up the second phone and retrieve your cash. 2b) Record $XXX worth of "quarter droppings" on tape (this was when micro- cassettes just became popular and cheap) and use that to "pay" New York Tel wised up after about six months of this being popular and fixed the phones (and probably fixed the basic flaw for future ones). -- Joe Konstan konstan@ernie.Berkeley.edu