Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!seismo!sundc!pitstop!sun!decwrl!labrea!glacier!jbn From: jbn@glacier.STANFORD.EDU (John B. Nagle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga,comp.graphics Subject: "LIVE!" report Message-ID: <17201@glacier.STANFORD.EDU> Date: Thu, 29-Oct-87 18:33:04 EST Article-I.D.: glacier.17201 Posted: Thu Oct 29 18:33:04 1987 Date-Received: Wed, 4-Nov-87 02:25:12 EST Organization: Stanford University Lines: 31 Keywords: Amiga, framegrabber, LIVE! Xref: mnetor comp.sys.amiga:10150 comp.graphics:1299 It's finally out. I have one. It works. It makes pretty pictures. It's a great toy, with rock video and nightclub applications. Some interesting special effects are possible. But the images are heavily distorted by the digitizing process in a number of ways, and the output is not suitable for serious work on moving images. What LIVE actually does is digitize a color composite video signal in real time with a 4-bit A-to-D. But the Amiga doesn't have enough bandwidth to take all 4 bits at once at the TV scan rate, so only one bit of the four is transferred during each frame. In four frame times, one can obtain a monochrome image; in twelve, a color. Note, though, that the different bits come from DIFFERENT FRAMES, so moving objects look very strange. Some people think it looks cool. If the input image is static, the results are quite good, given the limitations of a 4-bit A/D converter. It is two orders of magnitude faster than Digi-View. As a way of getting stills into a computer, it is very cost-effective. The software supports this application well. One can grab a sequence of images (about 25 per megabyte of available memory) and write them to a file, to be played back with another program. This is less useful. As an input device for robotic vision, my interest, it has some severe problems. But there is hope, and I'm working on finding out what one can do given the limitations of the device. $295, from A-Squared Distributions, Oakland, CA. Amiga 1000 only. Plugs into bus expansion connector. John Nagle