Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!bloom-beacon!gatech!hao!oddjob!gargoyle!ihnp4!homxb!mtuxo!mtune!codas!killer!usl!usl-pc!mahler From: mahler@usl-pc.UUCP (Stephen J. Mahler) Newsgroups: comp.arch,comp.unix.wizards,comp.os.misc Subject: Re: Shared libraries (Was: Re: Big Programs Hurt Performance) Message-ID: <73@usl-pc.UUCP> Date: Sun, 11-Oct-87 10:48:32 EDT Article-I.D.: usl-pc.73 Posted: Sun Oct 11 10:48:32 1987 Date-Received: Thu, 15-Oct-87 01:43:29 EDT References: <8714@utzoo.UUCP> <286@usl> Reply-To: mahler@usl-pc.UUCP (Stephen J. Mahler) Organization: Univ. of Southwestern La., Lafayette Lines: 26 Xref: mnetor comp.arch:2632 comp.unix.wizards:4877 comp.os.misc:289 In article <286@usl> elg@usl (Eric Lee Green) writes: >in article <8714@utzoo.UUCP>, henry@utzoo.UUCP (Henry Spencer) says: >> Xref: usl-pc comp.arch:776 comp.unix.wizards:1359 comp.os.misc:161 >>> Needless to say, the Amiga OS is not Unix, for one thing, Unix isn't >>> going to run on a 512K machine with no MMU and two floppies... >> You might be interested to know that early versions of Unix ran on machines >> on which 512KB would have been considered an impossible dream, with no MMU, >> and with hard disks not much bigger or faster than modern floppies. It was >> a bit primitive by modern standards, but it did work. > >I assume you are talking about the PDP-11. The PDP-11 does have a MMU, >which does address relocation (i.e. you have a virtual address space >of 64K, located in a larger physical address space of 256K to >4 megabytes depend on 18, 20, or 22 bit models). I've never used a >PDP-11 :-). > DEC machines of PDP design included versions that did not include MMUs. The two that jump to mind are the pdp-11/20-15-10 and the LSI-11/03 series. UNIX ran on these machines. The straight forward approach was called MINI-UNIX. It had features between V6 and V7 and the only real stripping of the OS was the removal of account "groups" (/etc/group, newgrp, chgrp, etc.). It did run on systems that had only two floppies (like the AED 8 inch floppy system with about 1 meg per drive). It ran well, even from the portable generator on the corn combine !! ......... Steve