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From: u3369429@murdu.OZ (Michael Bednarek)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: re: DEC Mail Utility Madness
Message-ID: <1312@murdu.OZ>
Date: Mon, 19-Oct-87 02:51:36 EDT
Article-I.D.: murdu.1312
Posted: Mon Oct 19 02:51:36 1987
Date-Received: Tue, 20-Oct-87 01:57:50 EDT
References: <1894@uwmacc.UUCP> <871017023422.00f@CitHex.Caltech.Edu> <8710171848.AA08295@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> <871017100017.023@Lbl.Arpa>
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In message <1894@uwmacc.UUCP> dorl@vms.macc.wisc.edu (Michael (NMI) Dorl) wrote:
>[defining MAIL$EDIT as explained in section 3.1 of the 'Mail Utility Reference
> Manual' doesn't work for READ/EDIT, NEXT/EDIT, FIRST/EDIT, or LAST/EDIT
> commands as it does for SEND/EDIT REPLY/EDIT]

and asks the important question:
>How would one define MAIL$EDIT so that the whatever/EDIT commands would work?

to which carl@CITHEX.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
in article <871017023422.00f@CitHex.Caltech.Edu> responded:

>[define MAIL$EDIT as CALLABLE_TPU to use TPU with READ/EDIT, NEXT/EDIT,
> FIRST/EDIT, and LAST/EDIT]

to which nagy%warner.hepnet@LBL.GOV (Frank J. Nagy/VAX Guru)
in article <871017100017.023@Lbl.Arpa> further elaborated:

>As of LSE V2, you can also use callable-LSE with MAIL (I'm using it
>right now as a matter of fact :-) by defining MAIL$EDIT as CALLABLE_LSE.

Then, leichter@VENUS.YCC.YALE.EDU ("Jerry Leichter")
in article <8710171848.AA08295@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> explained:

>(As to why this happens:  [read the referenced article]

Well, the original question hasn't been answered yet:
>How would one define MAIL$EDIT so that the whatever/EDIT commands would work?

That is, how to send AND read mail using the same editor interface, not just
the same editor. E.g. my MAIL$EDIT points to a EDTINI.EDT file in a group's
common directory, which defines a number of additional keys and such.

I realise that an EDTINI.EDT file in my current directory would be read by
a CALLABLE_EDT, but I'm not always in my SYS$LOGIN when I read mail.

The only workaround seems to me to:
*include <my-usual-EDTINI.EDT> =INI
*define macro ini
*ini

This, however, does not completely work as a number of EDT commands are
executed properly only during startup, like SET COMMAND, SET MODE CHANGE.

So how does one cause CALLABLE_EDT to execute a specific startup file?
(BTW, DEFINE CALLABLE_EDT <my-usual-EDTINI.EDT> and
      DEFINE MAIL$EDIT CALLABLE_EDT doesn't work :-) )

Michael Bednarek
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