Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!necntc!ames!sdcsvax!ucbvax!UDEL.EDU!Mills From: Mills@UDEL.EDU Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: X.25 problems Message-ID: <8710141659.aa23865@Huey.UDEL.EDU> Date: Wed, 14-Oct-87 16:59:35 EDT Article-I.D.: Huey.8710141659.aa23865 Posted: Wed Oct 14 16:59:35 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 17-Oct-87 05:32:37 EDT Sender: usenet@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 26 Lars, Non-core gateway daemons, the only ones likely to use ACC interfaces, do NOT ping gateways other than the three corespeakers and then only with EGP, which has intrinsic provisions to limit the polling frequency. The only other polling-type protocol likely to appear over ARPANET paths is the Network Time Protocol (NTP) spoken by a few gateways, but not PSC to my knowledge. Therefore, I must conclude that whatever the cause of vast numbers of ARPANET host pairs with one end at PSC it is due to normal traffic spasms. Note that the so-called extra-hop problem due to incomplete knowledge at the corespeakers can create a non-reciprocal situation where two circuits, not one, are required between certain host pairs. What I am not hearing in your explanation on how the ACC interface handles VC allocation is what happens when all VCs are fully allocated. I have heard from PSC staff that the driver complains in messages to the operator when an attempt is made to open another VC past the 64-circuit max. I would assume the polite driver would keep an activity with entries for each active VC and clear the oldest/least-used to make room for the next one. I would assume this would also happen if an incoming call request appeared from the network and all VCs were committed. Further, I would assume both the PSN and ACC would do this kind of thing, no matter what the timeouts chosen. Dave