Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!seismo!sundc!pitstop!sun!decwrl!ucbvax!ATHOS.RUTGERS.EDU!hedrick From: hedrick@ATHOS.RUTGERS.EDU (Charles Hedrick) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: Ethernet Bridge Message-ID: <8711011649.AA01017@athos.rutgers.edu> Date: Sun, 1-Nov-87 11:49:43 EST Article-I.D.: athos.8711011649.AA01017 Posted: Sun Nov 1 11:49:43 1987 Date-Received: Thu, 5-Nov-87 20:42:20 EST References: <7603@g.ms.uky.edu> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 19 Now that source routing is becoming accepted, IP gateways are no longer guaranteed to provide security. A host can pretend to be a host on a different subnet, but use source-routing in such a way that the other guy is told to route the packet back thru the bad guy's real address. The bad guy of course does not forward the packet. IP gateways are normally used because they provide isolation. This issue has been discussed so many times that I am reluctant to do it once more. In general, a LANbridge is more reasonable the fewer Ethernets you have (making provisions for future growth), the fewer different kinds of systems you have, and the better central control you have over the systems on your network. We have had disasters that made every VMS system on a network connected by level 2 routing unusable. The problem should not get thru an IP gateway. We have had several disasters that were confined to a single Ethernet only because of the use of IP gateways. However if you have good network monitoring and system management, a stable network/software environment, or a small network, a level 2 system can be made to work.