Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!seismo!sundc!pitstop!sun!amdcad!ames!hao!husc6!cmcl2!phri!dasys1!patth From: patth@dasys1.UUCP (Patt Haring) Newsgroups: comp.society.futures Subject: Re: Sammie's data Message-ID: <1846@dasys1.UUCP> Date: Thu, 29-Oct-87 22:49:30 EST Article-I.D.: dasys1.1846 Posted: Thu Oct 29 22:49:30 1987 Date-Received: Wed, 4-Nov-87 06:21:50 EST References: <8710220138.AA09366@bu-cs.BU.EDU> <8710220524.AA12093@bu-cs.BU.EDU> <1006@maynard.BSW.COM> Organization: The Big Electric Cat Lines: 51 Keywords: why? Summary: changing the world thru computer networking In article <1006@maynard.BSW.COM>, campbell@maynard.BSW.COM (Larry Campbell) writes: > In article <425@nuchat.UUCP> steve@nuchat.UUCP (Steve Nuchia) writes: > > <>I've been amazed, sometimes _very_ amazed, at the kinds of people > <>who know absolutely nothing about electronic communications. I'm > <>talking about ... professionals in all > <>kinds of fields. When the usenet comes up in conversation I usually > <>have a _lot_ of explaining to do. The hardest part for them to > <>deal with is often not the technology but _why_ one would want to > <>exchange these notes. > > Well, I am both a computer professional and a system and news > administrator, and I often find myself wondering why I spend the time > and effort on Usenet. The actual value of the Usenet is, I think, highly > overrated. It's an entertaining pastime, but it's not going to change > the world. I think we've come a LONG way towards changing the world already! Consider this: Paul Levinson, Ph.D. started CONNECTED EDUCATION,INC back in 1985 with 12 students taking courses for credit towards an M.A. degree (EIES network, New Jersey Institute of Technology); today he has 125+ students studying ONLINE for M.A.'s and Ph.D's; they range in location from United Arab Emirates, Japan, Australia, Canada, South America, Mexico, France, Italy to cities all over the United States. Consider this too: login to EIES around 2 A.M. or thereabouts - you'll find quite a few people online - willing to chat, help you with a paper, etc. Dr. Levinson has also developed these programs for banks here in NYC whose employees work at night, can't get to a university to attend degree granting programs, etc. Senior partners at law firms where I've worked know ZILCH about typing; they *believe* that anyone who types should be classified as *nonlegal* personnel (*arrgghhh*); fancy this: young associates coming in to a law firm from Harvard, Columbia, Stanford, Yale, etc. now make their first request "Please may I have an IBM XT/AT for my desktop?" One senior partner I spoke to couldn't understand this thinking at all. Said I, in reply "would you go to a doctor who still uses leeches and cups to suction poisons out of your body?" "Same goes for lawyers who don't use computers and bill clients for 40+ hours of legal research that can now be done in 20 hours!" We're changing the world, Larry - this is just the tip of the iceberg. -- Patt Haring UUCP: ..cmcl2!phri!dasys1!patth Big Electric Cat Compu$erve: 76566,2510 New York, NY, USA MCI Mail: 306-1255; GEnie: PHaring (212) 879-9031 FidoNet Mail: 1:107/132 or 107/222