Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!hao!ames!ucbcad!ucbvax!CS.BHAM.AC.UK!BattenIG From: BattenIG@CS.BHAM.AC.UK (Ian G Batten) Newsgroups: comp.society.futures Subject: UUCP to RUSSIA Message-ID: <8710231332.aa13376@toby.cs.bham.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 23-Oct-87 08:32:21 EST Article-I.D.: toby.8710231332.aa13376 Posted: Fri Oct 23 08:32:21 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 25-Oct-87 15:23:09 EST Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 17 > Interesting point. Many people write "freeware" or "shareware" these > days that is given away freely. Since it's not commerce to not-sell > something, commercial export bans really can't apply. (Can they? I'm > not a lawyer, but this seems to fit into a legal nicety.) What will > the government do when some 7-year-old hacker writes a DES system and > puts it on a free BBS? I suspect that it can be stopped; however, even though our Suns don't have the des software because of export restrictions, it's noticable that almost everyone has a PD des on their machines these days. It's moderately hard to impose restrictions on physical hardware, harder still on "actual" (ie tapes, disks, listings) on software; stopping the flow of information is well-nigh impossible. Since the des algorithm is publically available, witholding the code that implements it is rather pointless. ian