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From: earle@jplopto.uucp (Greg Earle)
Newsgroups: comp.society.futures
Subject: East meets West, la Choi makes Chinese food, swing - American!
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Date: Sat, 24-Oct-87 00:43:56 EST
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Posted: Sat Oct 24 00:43:56 1987
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Organization: Rockwell International, Seal Beach  CA
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Summary: Also, Submitter in New Topic proposed shock horror - film at 11

My 2 (U.S.) cents' worth on East-West interchange:
Recently, the Yugoslavian band Laibach performed as the accompaniment for
the second act of two performances by the neo-modernist Michael Clark
Ensemble dance troupe in L.A.  Although theoretically not a `concert', in
truth it was close enough so that one could say these were Laibach's first
ever concerts in the U.S.  In the aftermath, the dance critics fell over
themselves to describe them as `neo-Nazi', `neo-Fascist', `militaristic',
and similar epithets (after all, Ignorance Is Bliss).  I myself would more
aptly put it as precisionist post-modern drum-based music with inventive
orchestrations and gruff vocalisations, but I stray a bit ...

In any case, they have toured the European continent quite a bit over the
last couple of years, but never Amerika.   Apres'-gig I asked them if they
ever had any problems getting permits to leave Yugoslavia to play gigs.  In
reply I got, `The amount of trouble we have leaving Yugoslavia is miniscule
compared to the amount of trouble we have entering your country.' [They were
refusedniked Visas last year thanks to our wonderful INS and its `No
Cultural Value' ruleset mind].  Touche' ...

On another note, I'd like to throw down the gauntlet on a new Topic:
	The late Eighties and Information Overload - Wither UNIX Gurus?
[or,	If We Don't Coredump Dennis, Brian, Guy, Doug, Chris et al. soon,
	We're Going To Be In Deep Shit]

Abstract:
	The discussion should center around the information explosion we all
	face, and how at this stage there are so many Black Holes of wonderful
	things to explore (UNIX, kernels, PostScript, Window systems, TeX and
	LaTeX and document production systems in general, etc. etc.) that
	each can take up all of one's time.  In the face of this, how can one
	enter the fray at this late stage and hope to become one of
	the all-knowing Guru Elite?  It would appear impossible at this stage,
	and only those who (through early entrance to this netherworld) have
	already accumulated the knowledge will be able to keep up.  When they
	evolve out of this, this knowledge will be lost.  Looking for all
	arguments pro and con ...

	Greg Earle		earle@jplopto.JPL.NASA.GOV
	S(*CENSORED*)t		earle%jplopto@jpl-elroy.ARPA	[aka:]
	Rockwell International	earle%jplopto@elroy.JPL.NASA.GOV
	Seal Beach, CA		...!cit-vax!elroy!smeagol!jplopto!earle