Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!amdahl!ames!ucbcad!ucbvax!NOTE.NSF.GOV!fbaube From: fbaube@NOTE.NSF.GOV (Fred Baube) Newsgroups: comp.society.futures Subject: Re: East meets West, la Choi makes Chinese food, swing - American! Message-ID: <8710261134.aa26049@note.nsf.gov> Date: Mon, 26-Oct-87 11:48:29 EST Article-I.D.: note.8710261134.aa26049 Posted: Mon Oct 26 11:48:29 1987 Date-Received: Wed, 28-Oct-87 23:35:16 EST Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 19 In <4692@elroy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov> Greg Earle writes: >reply I got, `The amount of trouble we have leaving Yugoslavia is miniscule >compared to the amou>nt of trouble we have entering your country.' [They were >refusedniked Visas last year thanks to our wonderful INS and its `No >Cultural Value' ruleset mind]. Touche' ... As I understand it, INS has disingenuously declared that visa applicants that are, say, music performers, must have proof that they have some sort of "established audience" to gain entry, this constituting proof that they aren't just trying to get here and stay here to live. This audience must be evidenced by album sales in the US (how else could one do it ?), which (Catch 22) generally occur *after* a successful tour by a new-and-struggling group. The thought occurs, what music groups now known by American audiences (of whatever musical persuasion) would previously have been barred by this rule ? And, does this doom us to European versions of Barry Manilow and Wayne Newton ? :-<