Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!ut-sally!ghostwheel!ned From: ned@ghostwheel.UUCP (Ned Nowotny) Newsgroups: comp.sources.d Subject: Re: v11INF3: Poll on copyrights Message-ID: <111@ghostwheel.UUCP> Date: Wed, 21-Oct-87 19:05:50 EDT Article-I.D.: ghostwhe.111 Posted: Wed Oct 21 19:05:50 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 24-Oct-87 07:55:16 EDT References: <4899@ncoast.UUCP> <31209@sun.uucp> <31218@sun.uucp> <212@papaya.bbn.com> Reply-To: ned@ghostwheel.aca.mcc.com.UUCP (Ned Nowotny) Organization: MCC Database Program, Austin, Texas Lines: 38 In article <212@papaya.bbn.com> rsalz@uunet.uu.net (Rich Salz) writes: >Jim Cotrell made the mistake of posting a reply, rather than just mailing >me his vote. Why is it a "mistake" to start a discussion on software copyrights? Flame Wars are not necessarily a bad thing if readers have an opportunity to learn the opinions of their fellow professionals. After all, comp.sources.d is a "discussion" group. >If you want your opinion to affect what I do with comp.sources.unix and >copyrighted software, then please! DO NOT! post discussions or start >flamewars in this newgroup, or other mailing lists. If I even get to >read your article, you can rest assured I will attach it no credence. Who says that a posting to comp.sources.d on the subject of software copyrights is intended to influence the moderator? Perhaps a disscussion of the reasons for copyrights on freely distributed software and the reactions people have to such software is needed. Judging by Jim Cotrell's followup and the responses to it, such a discussion may be well worthwhile. Frankly, I can see nothing wrong with placing a copyright on an original work which is then given away (i.e. freely distributed on USENET and through other media). Whether money changes hands or not, there are good ethical and legal reasons for respecting copyright notices. It does not matter whether appropriate legalese was used in wording the notice or whether the copyright is, in fact, enforcible as a practical matter. Such notices should be respected, or the software should not be used or kept by those who object. And of course, no one should take another person's original work and sell it for profit without the express consent of the author. This consent can be given by an explicit declaration that the work in question has been placed in the public domain, but it should not be assumed that publicly available material is de facto public domain. Ethics may seem abstract, but such abstractions, when commonly accepted, make it a great deal easier to live with reality. Ned Nowotny (ned@ghostwheel.aca.mcc.com.UUCP)