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From: mwm@eris.BERKELEY.EDU (Mike (My watch has windows) Meyer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga
Subject: Re: AmiExpo
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Date: Thu, 22-Oct-87 03:13:59 EDT
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Posted: Thu Oct 22 03:13:59 1987
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In article <619@louie.udel.EDU> rminnich@udel.EDU (Ron Minnich) writes:
<I should add that i am a victim of Lattice 3.03, 
<which was money well spent only in that it gets me 4.0 for $75, but
<was almost a total loss otherwise.

Yeah, 3.03 is about the level of most Unix C compilers, running on
hardware not designed to support an OS that makes that many trips to
all the wells. However, you blew it in not upgrading to 3.10 instead
of staying with 3.03 for the last year. True, it costs a little more
overall, but *I've* had 3.10 to use for the last year. If there's as
much improvment between 3.10 and 4.0 as there was between 3.03 and
3.10, I may quit asking for a real language on the Amiga.

Speaking of which:

<Oh, and, silly me, Amiga Lisp from
<MCC. Boy, was that dumb, i realized one day later, but the 
<dealer refused to take it back. I cannot believe that MCC is still 
<in business ...

MCC LISP is a true dog. Doesn't look like any LISP popular in the US.
They dropped the single most important feature from Cambridge LISP
when they dropped closure support. The compiler doesn't do to badly,
but they missed some sophmore-level tricks in the optimizer.

As for MCC, remember that they were in business long before there was
an Amiga, and will probably be in business after the Amiga is gone.
They sell that LISP for the ST, and I would have used it if the
support had been at the same level. They also were the first people
with a PIPE: and AUX: device. And there are people here who swear by
their CLI replacement (going to take a look at it one of these days).

I keep wishing they'd put there BCPL compiler on the market. Then I
could cuss at CPTRs in the Exec :-).

	<mike
--
And then up spoke his own dear wife,			Mike Meyer
Never heard to speak so free.				mwm@berkeley.edu
"I'd rather a kiss from dead Matty's lips,		ucbvax!mwm
Than you or your finery."				mwm@ucbjade.BITNET