Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!hao!gatech!hubcap!ncrcae!ncr-sd!crash!gryphon!richard From: richard@gryphon.CTS.COM (Richard Sexton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: DcomPlAINTs Message-ID: <2020@gryphon.CTS.COM> Date: Fri, 23-Oct-87 04:37:13 EST Article-I.D.: gryphon.2020 Posted: Fri Oct 23 04:37:13 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 25-Oct-87 15:57:42 EST References: <605@louie.udel.EDU> <2490@dciem.UUCP> <619@louie.udel.EDU> Reply-To: richard@gryphon.CTS.COM (Richard Sexton) Organization: Trailing Edge Technology, Redondo Beach, CA Lines: 124 Summary: I think your problem is not dpaint, but your printer or driver. In article <619@louie.udel.EDU> rminnich@udel.EDU (Ron Minnich) writes: >In article <2490@dciem.UUCP> king@dciem.UUCP (Stephen King) writes: >>In article <605@louie.udel.EDU> rminnich@udel.EDU (Ron Minnich) writes: >>>other hand, it was $15 and it works. Sure the output looks like hell >>>but DPaint is awful too and it costs a lot more. Which led me to >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>I am surprised by this statement. I think DPaint is GREAT! What are you >>comparing it to? >> >>>My wife refused to countenance any money spent on another Amiga >>>program- she used DPaint too until we realized we could not print. >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Huh ? Why can't you print ? > Look, let's just say for the moment that i am joe typical amiga >user. Or maybe what C= would like to be typical. I plunk my $90 >down for DPaint, and what do i get? >1) A program that takes over 2 minutes to start up- because of the > idiotic encoding There are ways around this. >2) a program that basically eats my amiga-unless i get > 512K It's a BIG program. It does lots of stuff. It even overlays. TNSTAAFL. >3) a program that, admittedly, is a pretty fantastic paint program, BUT ... You bet it is. Check out what the big boys use at the next SIGGRAPH meeting, there aint that much of a difference, except they have more colors. And *those* packages are the price of a house or a Countach. >4) i cannot make copies of those pictures! What are you talking about ? > Or I do the best i can, > do figures for an article, send the article out, and get lambasted > by the reviewers for the quality of the pictures (which is > really annoying). I don't understand. Dpaint, you said, is a great program, but they don't like your pictures. What don't they like ? Your artistry or your printer ? Either way it's not Dpaint's fault, now, is it ? > It is a great paint program. From almost every other standpoint >it is a complete write-off. I do not much care if it is wonderful >if i cannot (after a LOT of trying) get decent b/w output. >Maybe it is partly C= fault, i do not know. I really had to wonder, >though, if EA ever even tried to print on a 'just folks' printer. >I could not believe that they could ship a product whose printed >output looked so bad. I havn't noticed printed output looking bad ? What is your setup ? >Compare this to MacPaint Eeeeeuuuuchh. > (sorry!). So you should be. > you can >still go to talks and read articles that have figures done under >MacPaint in them PRINTED ON AN IMAGEWRITER; they look OK. Are you saying that a Dpaint picture printed on an IMAGEWRITER look worse than equivilent MacPaint pictures printed on the same printer ? Could you elaborate ? If you want to show up the mac folks, take screen shots with slide film, and do a (color) slide show. Beats the **** out of Imagewriter output. And at $3 to develop a roll of film, the price is right, too. >>Before getting a bargain on a Canon PJ-1080 color ink-jet printer, > Which i cannot afford ... $699 new, $199 close-out, advertised in BYTE magazine. >>They were no screaming hell, but they were hard copy > in my opinion, barely. Like i say, what is the point of >the world's best paint program if you cannot print it? I guess I've been lucky. My Dpaint pictures seem to come out great on the PostScript Laser Printer I have, seem to look great on the Polaroid Palette setup, look great on the $199 Canon, and even look great in slides taken by shooting the monitor with a 35 mm camera. [...spreadsheet stuph deleted...] >I should add that i am a victim of Lattice 3.03, You have my heartfelt sympathies. I used this turkey for about a week, was thouroughly disgusted, threw my hands up in the air, babbled something like "this is as bad as the PC 'C' compiler they make me use at work" and found a better compiler. Can you say "cat with no tail" ? Can you say "race of dead South/Central American indians" ? I've been happy ever since. > Anyway, the tone of my letter was meant to really say: > NICE WORK C= Hear hear. >Heck, the 500 weighs less >than a 3277 keyboard ... So do most boat anchors and some Subaru's. >ron (rminnich@udel.edu) -- Richard J. Sexton INTERNET: richard@gryphon.CTS.COM UUCP: {hplabs!hp-sdd, sdcsvax, ihnp4, nosc}!crash!gryphon!richard "It's too dark to put the keys in my ignition..."