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From: rminnich@udel.EDU (Ron Minnich)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga
Subject: Re: DcomPlAINTs
Message-ID: <626@louie.udel.EDU>
Date: Fri, 23-Oct-87 14:21:43 EST
Article-I.D.: louie.626
Posted: Fri Oct 23 14:21:43 1987
Date-Received: Sun, 25-Oct-87 16:40:25 EST
References: <605@louie.udel.EDU> <2490@dciem.UUCP> <619@louie.udel.EDU> <2020@gryphon.CTS.COM>
Reply-To: rminnich@udel.EDU (Ron Minnich)
Organization: University of Delaware
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In article <2020@gryphon.CTS.COM> richard@gryphon.CTS.COM (Richard Sexton) writes:
>
>Huh ? Why can't you print ?
>
>>1) A program that takes over 2 minutes to start up- because of the 
>>   idiotic encoding
>
>There are ways around this.
Oh, yes, go spend $30 on copy un-protector. Why should a customer
have to do this? 
>>4) i cannot make copies of those pictures!
>
>What are you talking about ?
>
>> Or I do the best i can, 
>>   do figures for an article, send the article out, and get lambasted
>>   by the reviewers for the quality of the pictures (which is 
>>   really annoying). 
>
>I don't understand. Dpaint, you said, is a great program, but they
>don't like your pictures. What don't they like ? Your artistry or
>your printer ? Either way it's not Dpaint's fault, now, is it ?
OK, i will state this simply, although it has been gone over
by many other people here before. 

  Go into dpaint. draw a triangle. looks like triangle. 
Print it. Has one pixel line missing, or is distorted in some
other way. Type 'this is a test' in any font. print it. 
The same letters in the same line look slightly different. 
Spend a lot of time adjusting preferences. read all the magazines
to see what other people did. Take their 'best preferences' numbers,
set them up, look at the printed picture, go 'yuck', put 
dpaint on the shelf and go back to tpic/latex. 
   What the reviewer's do not like is the lousy quality of the 
printed output, and they said so. Not what i drew. What dpaint
printed. I see it as the responsibility of EA to ship a 
program that prints well. Dpaint does not. Yes, in my opinion, 
IT IS DPAINTS fault. i drop money on a paint program, it 
better be able to print. I do not have time to cover up 
for its problems. 
>I havn't noticed printed output looking bad ? What is your setup ?
See the above. If you can print 'this is a test', and have all
the cross-bars on the T's exactly the same width/height, then you 
are doing better than i. I have either a star 10 or a jx80, 
depending on location. I also have CLAZ. no real improvement.
>Are you saying that a Dpaint picture printed on an IMAGEWRITER
>look worse than equivilent MacPaint pictures printed on the
>same printer ? Could you elaborate ?
I have not been able to try imagewriter. I am saying that 
dpaint on 
1) laserwriter
2) jx80
3) star 10
does not look as good as macpaint+imagewriter. 
>If you want to show up the mac folks, take screen shots with slide
>film, and do a (color) slide show. Beats the **** out of Imagewriter
>output. And at $3 to develop a roll of film, the price is right, too.
You can not do a slide show in Soft. Prac. and Exp.
>>>Before getting a bargain on a Canon PJ-1080 color ink-jet printer,
>>   Which i cannot afford ...
>$699 new, $199 close-out, advertised in BYTE magazine. 
WHICH I CANNOT AFFORD. 

anyway, i now use 'mcad', on fish disk 74. Very nice product,
it drives my hp 6-color plotter, and it is object-oriented. 
I am going to send the guy his $20 and get source. 

-- 
ron (rminnich@udel.edu)