Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!lll-winken!lll-lcc!unisoft!gethen!farren From: farren@gethen.UUCP (Michael J. Farren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: A2000 serial port != A1000 (ackkkk!)(and 500 || <> 1000 ||) Message-ID: <252@gethen.UUCP> Date: Sun, 25-Oct-87 05:34:52 EST Article-I.D.: gethen.252 Posted: Sun Oct 25 05:34:52 1987 Date-Received: Tue, 27-Oct-87 02:56:58 EST References: <1962@ucbcad.berkeley.edu> <610@louie.udel.EDU> <2548@cbmvax.UUCP> <1903@crash.CTS.COM> Reply-To: farren@gethen.UUCP (Michael J. Farren) Organization: Sci-Fido - Unix in Oakland Lines: 28 In article <1903@crash.CTS.COM> ford@crash.CTS.COM (Michael Ditto) writes: >But there was *NO* reason to change the gender >of the connector [except that that's the way ibm-pcs have them]. [...] >Anyone who thinks that (IBM == STANDARD) doesn't deserve to be working with >modern technology like Amigas. When IBM made the PC they didn't know >anything about microcomputers. You'd better think again. IBM is the ONLY microcomputer manufacturer that FOLLOWED the standard. Go get a copy of the RS-232 document. It states, as plain as day, that the DTE end of the connector has a male connector, and the DCE end has a female. Since the computer certainly qualifies as DTE (after all, you're probably connecting the damn thing to a modem), it SHOULD have a male connector. Due to the fact that female connectors are easier to mount on a panel, and are slightly cheaper, most manufacturers (of both terminals and computers) ignored the standard, and took it upon themselves to specify a male plug. Try this: suppose you have a modem that's 15 feet away, and you only have two 10' cables. If you have male-to-male cables, you are out of luck. If you have male-to-female cables, like IBM's, just hook 'em together. Makes sense to me. Enough sense that I've done just that, more than once. -- ---------------- Michael J. Farren "... if the church put in half the time on covetousness unisoft!gethen!farren that it does on lust, this would be a better world ..." gethen!farren@lll-winken.arpa Garrison Keillor, "Lake Wobegon Days"