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From: dillon@CORY.BERKELEY.EDU (Matt Dillon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga
Subject: Re: 1000-2000 upgrade, hackers, the Mac, net wars, reassurances
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Date: Fri, 30-Oct-87 21:55:16 EST
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>Boy, a lot of people are flaming Commodore for the 1000 to 2000 upgrade.
>Considering the hosing Apple gave original 128K Macintosh buyers and
>Commodore's own history of introducing incompatible machines, I'd say
>we got off very, very easily.

	What, you want the Amiga to be compatible with the C64???  
I Apple hadn't hosed those poor people, Apple would be hosed itself.
Actually, only a couple of people have flamed C-A for the upgrade.  The rest
of us either have no opinion or agree with C-A  (I personally agree with the 
upgrade even though I do not intend to by an A2000 anytime soon).

>Imagine if Commodore had released an incompatible machine, like,
>one that used the 386 instead of the 68000.  Blammo, slow death for the
>A1000 as it suffocates from lack of exposure (not enough machines to 

	C-A wouldn't want to do that anyway.  Most people in this newsgroup
don't give a  (--bleep--) for Intel or their processor line. 

>Hackers bought the Amiga since it's release because it is the coolest 
>home computer by far ever.  I don't care if that can't be explained in 
>a 30-second commercial:  multitasking, the blitter, graphics coprocessor, 
>Intuition, the CLI.

	The OS that made it all possible!  I don't know about all of you,
but I was attracted to the extremely loveable operating system that allowed
us Hackers to, well, hack, and make it all compatible.  The best feature of
the OS is multitasking, of course.

>in the business.  I don't think Atari, Apple or IBM give a damn about 
>hackers.  (Note how quickly we had the docs on the internals compared to
>the ST guys.  Also, one could immediately develop code with the Amiga.
>The first Mac programmers had to cross-compile from a Lisa!)

	Actually, Atari is the company that always had the great hacker
base.  Unfortunetly they made some *huge* mistakes with the ST.  For 
instance, with every other company turning to a more sophisticated operating
system, Atari stayed low-level with a 'proven' IBM-like OS, even down to
using IBM's disk formats.  As it turned out, they were still sufficiently
different that the 'compatibility' wasn't worth a damn, and now they can't
even effectively upgrade the machine without introducing huge 
incompatibilities.

					-Matt