Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!bloom-beacon!oberon!cit-vax!ucla-cs!zen!ucbvax!UIAMVS.BITNET!AWCTTYPA From: AWCTTYPA@UIAMVS.BITNET (DAVE LYONS) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple Subject: Mail from Participate at the University of Iowa Message-ID: <8710121056.aa18826@SMOKE.BRL.ARPA> Date: Fri, 16-Oct-87 05:24:18 EDT Article-I.D.: SMOKE.8710121056.aa18826 Posted: Fri Oct 16 05:24:18 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 17-Oct-87 19:12:00 EDT Sender: usenet@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 30 Robert, "Fatal Error 0911" (on the new ROM) is the same as "Fatal Error 0400" on the old ROM. It means that synchronization between the IIgs and the Keyboard Microcontroller (which is surface-mounted on the motherboard) has been lost. The problem occured for me with the old ROM and still occurs with the new one. I know of no solution to the problem. It seems to be related to the IIgs's temperature, but I haven't done any scientific experiments on it, and I can *not* reproduce the problem on purpose. (It just happens when it is least convenient, but never when the machine is cold.) I have had the problem on power-up (with the machine hot), on any form of RESET, and on Apple-Ctrl-ESC. [Apple-Ctrl-ESC is the most annoying time, becuase the chance of being forced to reboot means you have to save your work before using any CDAs--it kind of defeats the purpose. By the way, why do so many publications get Apple-Ctrl-ESC screwed up? I have seen it in print lately as Apple-Shift-ESC and even Apple-Ctrl-"Restart"!] I have not heard an official Apple statement on the problem, but I would like to. If you want to write them about it, give them some hard evidence that there is something wrong: do a self-test (by holding down Apple and Option (note that Option is Closed Apple for //e upgraders) while pressing and releasing Ctrl-Reset. You will get "System Bad 09....." (can't remember the last part of the number). The self-test on the old ROMs will actually crash if it detects the keyboard micro problem. The self test will report "System Bad" if you do it after you get the fatal error; most of the time your system will self-test just fine. --David A. Lyons AWCTTYPA@UIAMVS (BITNET) P.O. Box 287 | North Liberty, IA 52317