Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!tektronix!decvax!ucbvax!WALKER-EMH.ARPA!InfoMail-Mailer From: InfoMail-Mailer@WALKER-EMH.ARPA Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit Subject: Undeliverable Mail Message-ID: <8710140330.AA29773@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Tue, 13-Oct-87 23:12:00 EDT Article-I.D.: ucbvax.8710140330.AA29773 Posted: Tue Oct 13 23:12:00 1987 Date-Received: Thu, 15-Oct-87 21:15:38 EDT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 312 Mail was not delivered to the following users because there were bad address(es) in TO and/or CC field(s): info-atari UNDELIVERED-MESSAGE: ---------------------------------------------------------------- Received: from BBN.COM by WALKER-EMH.ARPA ; 14 Oct 87 02:52:12 GMT Received-2: from score.stanford.edu by BBN.COM id aa17627; 13 Oct 87 22:48 EDT Date: Tue 13 Oct 87 15:00:01 PDT Subject: Info-Atari8 Digest V87 #89 From: Info-Atari8 @ SCORE.STANFORD.EDU Errors-to: Info-Atari8-request@Score.Stanford.EDU Maint-Path: Info-Atari8-request@Score.Stanford.EDU To: Info-Atari8 Distribution List: Reply-to: Info-Atari8@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU Text: Info-Atari8 Digest Tuesday, October 13, 1987 Volume 87 : Issue 89 This weeks Editor: Bill Westfield Today's Topics: Re: What's the right way... November 1987 ANTIC TOC Re: Critcism or Embarassment,ATARI corp? BBS re: VT52B, Yet Another Terminal Emulator OmniCom ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 7 Oct 87 13:45:32 GMT From: decvax!sunybcs!bingvaxu!marge.math.binghamton.edu!sullivan@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (fred sullivan) Subject: Re: What's the right way... To: info-atari8@score.stanford.edu In article <871006122252.4.JRD@GRACKLE.SCRC.Symbolics.COM> jrd@STONY-BROOK.SCRC.SYMBOLICS.COM (John R. Dunning) writes: >to return from a program to DOS? I always thought the protocol was that >DOS (any DOS) effectively JSR'ed to the start address of the program >once it was loaded; thus the right way to return was just to RTS. >That's always worked for me, using DOS XL. However, I've gotten some >reports that Kermit-65 sometimes wedges up when one exits from it. I'm >pretty sure I'm not trashing the stack; it really looks like DOS expects >something other than an RTS. > I have had similar problems with various communications programs, including a very simple one I wrote years ago in basic. I formed the conjecture that there are mysterious problems which arise after turning on concurrent io mode in an 850 interface. Does anyone know anything about this? Fred Sullivan Department of Mathematical Sciences State University of New York at Binghamton Binghamton, New York 13903 Email: sullivan@marge.math.binghamton.edu ------------------------------ Date: 6 Oct 87 19:11:27 GMT From: ihnp4!ihlpe!kimes@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Kit Kimes) Subject: November 1987 ANTIC TOC To: info-atari8@score.stanford.edu [] NOVEMBER 1987 ANTIC TOC Theme: PRACTICAL APPLICATION WINNERS page article 7 I/O BOARD Letters from Readers. 7 DISK BONUS PROGRAM The bonus this month is GALLEONS, an arcade quality sea battle. It is described as a flashy, colorful two-player action game. ML. 13 PRODUCT REVIEWS Software Money$pin (White Bag Software) Hardware Animation Station (Suncom)--A touch tablet that comes with DesignLab paint program. 20 NEW PRODUCTS A description but not a review of several new products available for the Atari computers. This month announcements include Pirates of the Barbary Coast, Aliants, Sprong, Space Lobster & Disk 50 (all Star Soft); Smart Speaker (Swisscomp, Inc); Guild of Thieves (Firebird); Borodino:1812 (KRENtek Software) and Ace of Aces (Accolade). 29 GAME OF THE MONTH: HOT AND COLD A classic peg game similar to Master Mind. 35 GRAND PRIZE APPLICATION WINNER: CRITICAL-PATH PROJECT MANAGER Design your own project time line. Display and print out information in various forms including a GANT chart. 37 GRAND PRIZE APPLICATION WINNER: WYSIWYG CASSETTE JACKETS Do you record your own music or copy your records onto a cassette tape? This program allows you to design a cassette jacket that can be cut to fit in a standard case. Designed to work with Epson compatible printers. 39 GRAND PRIZE APPLICATION WINNER: YOUR BEST ROUTE Planning a trip? Use this program to build a chart that lists distances between all cities you plan to visit and then let the program tell you the shortest route to take to see all the points of interest. 40 GRAND PRIZE APPLICATION WINNER: BIBLIOGRAPHY MASTER This programs allows you to edit and print bibliographies for all those term papers you have to write. 46 LAPTOP-TO-ATARI CONNECTION This article explains how to move information from a laptop computer such as a Radio Shack Model 100 to your Atari. ***********BEGIN THE ST RESOURCE SECTION********** 51 ST PRODUCT NEWS AND REVIEWS Software Alternate Reality: The City V2.0 (Datasoft) LabelMaster (Migraph, Inc) New Products (description only) M/CADD (Migraph, Inc), 1st Word Plus (Electronic Distribution), Plundered Hearts (Infocom), LOGiSTiK Senior and LOGiSTiK Junior (Progressive Peripherals & Software), Test Drive (Accolade) and Music Construction Set (Electronic Arts). 55 TAP THE POWER OF YOUR SYSTEM CLOCK Improve your timing with ST BASIC. 61 MASTERPLAN A review of this scaled down version of VIP GEM. ***********END THE ST RESOURCE SECTION************ 63 SOFTWARE LIBRARY This section contains all the program listings for the articles in this issue. 82 TECH TIPS This section is a collection of tips and short programs from readers or collected from various Users Groups newsletters. Coming next month: Comments: The Catalog (that comes bound in the magazine) is a new issue this month. They have several new ST programs or new versions (such as Flash 1.5) and several bargains for both the 8bit and ST owners. ANTIC claims they ship within 24 hours and I tend to believe them. I got my order in less than a week after placing an order. There is an ad for a new OS for the 8bit XL/XE machines called the EXPANDER (Synergy Concepts) that sounds like it would be really nice for several types of applications. Anyone ever had any personal experience with it? The E. Arthur Brown Company have a full page an in this issue. They make the ST Video Box, ST Composite Cable and a ST Solderless RAM upgrade kit, among other things. Kit Kimes AT&T-ISL 1100 E. Warrenville Rd. Naperville, IL 60566 ...!ihnp4!iwvae!kimes ------------------------------ Date: 5 Oct 87 17:50:24 GMT From: imagen!atari!neil@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Neil Harris) Subject: Re: Critcism or Embarassment,ATARI corp? To: info-atari8@score.stanford.edu In article <8710012029.AA22072@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>, DFLINT02@ULKYVX.BITNET writes: > Answer this question why did a ATARI try to block the release > of the PD 8-bit emulator for the ST????? Don't quote Propietary OS. The answer is easy. We didn't. Contrary to popular rumor/reports, Darek's biggest problem when getting ready to release the emulator was getting through to the right person here. He ended up with myself and Richard Frick. We took the story to Sam Tramiel, President of Atari Corp. The three of us agreed that we had no problem allowing the release of the emulator, but in return for this we wanted Darek to release his source code as public domain. The emulator as it currently exists is too slow to be useful, not to mention the lack of support for important features like player/missile graphics. At any rate, Darek was reluctant to do this at first. He seemed to want sole credit for the emulator. The impasse was resolved on GEnie, in a series of messages between Darek and myself with audience participation. Then Darek asked for permission to sell an article on the emulator to an ST magazine so he could make a little money for the project. This was granted. The emulator was recently published in ST-Log magazine (September issue) and is available for download on GEnie and other places. These days, Darek is getting along with Atari a little better. I think he's not a bad negotiator -- he was stirring up public sympathy for himself in order to get what he wanted from us. On the other hand, we got the source code released, so we're happy too. Let's hope that the project ends up resulting in an emulator that does what we all want it to do. -- --->Neil Harris, Director of Marketing Communications, Atari Corporation UUCP: ...{hoptoad, lll-lcc, pyramid, imagen, sun}!atari!neil GEnie: NHARRIS/ WELL: neil / BIX: neilharris / Delphi: NEILHARRIS CIS: 70007,1135 / Atari BBS 408-745-5308 / Usually the OFFICIAL Atari opinion ------------------------------ Date: 7 Oct 87 17:35:49 GMT From: p7o%psuvm.bitnet@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (PATRICK) Subject: BBS To: info-atari8@score.stanford.edu Does anyone out here have a modem? 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Is there anyone out there who knows of an assembly language listing of a full RS232 serial interface using the second joystick port which they could email ? Also would it be possible to alter any of the terminal emulators available on the net to use such an interface ( i.e substitute the joystick port RS232 handler for the emulator's original handler ) ? "bigmouth strikes again" - M A R C U S - ------------------------------ Date: 8 Oct 87 15:56:55 GMT From: jumbo!ehs@decwrl.dec.com (Ed Satterthwaite) Subject: re: VT52B, Yet Another Terminal Emulator To: info-atari8@score.stanford.edu About a week ago, I posted a three-part message about VT52B, a simple emulator for an extended VT52 that I have found useful for talking to Unix. I have since heard from two people who got the first two parts but not the third (the ACTION! code itself). If anyone else wants this, drop me a note with a clear return address and I'll try to send it directly. It's about 14K bytes. Ed Satterthwaite Arpa: ehs@src.DEC.COM Uucp: {...}!decwrl!ehs ------------------------------ Posted-From: The MITRE Corp., Bedford, MA To: info-atari8@score.stanford.edu Subject: OmniCom Date: Mon, 12 Oct 87 11:07:46 EDT From: jhs@mitre-bedford.ARPA Several people have sent me questions about OmniCom which make me think that not everyone will realize that the basic OmniCom program needs to be linked together with an RS-232 handler to make it work. In particular, with the 1030 and 835 direct-connect modems, not all the handlers floating around work exactly right. There is a special one called ATARISRS.232 which is 16 sectors long which will work OK with the 850 interface as well as the 1030 and 835 direct-connect modems. This handler is shipped on the disk with OmniCom, so if you've been having trouble making OmniCom work with an 835 or 1030, but would like a terminal emulator with all its features, you should probably go ahead and order it on disk from CDY. If you have a handler sitting around but don't know what to do with it, make a disk with DOS on it, and make a copy of the handler on that disk, but name it "OC" (for OmniCom). They copy the OmniCom shareware program onto the end of it using the DOS "append" mode, like this: C D1:OC.OBJ, D2:OC/A or the equivalent using your favorite DOS. With DOS 2.0 or 2.5, the "/A" on the end of the destination filename makes DOS append the source file to the end of the existing destination file, instead of writing over it as it would if you failed to specify /A. The result is a file containing the RS232 handler, followed immediately by the OmniCom program. This should now run properly, assuming the RS232 handler is suitable for your modem interface. -John Sangster / jhs@mitre-bedford.arpa ------------------------------ End of Info-Atari8 Digest ************************** ------- -------------------END OF UNDELIVERED MESSAGE-------------------