Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!ukma!psuvm.bitnet!cunyvm!ndsuvm1.bitnet!ud140469 From: UD140469@NDSUVM1.BITNET Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: What's wrong with OSS? Message-ID: <370UD140469@NDSUVM1> Date: Sat, 17-Oct-87 01:11:55 EDT Article-I.D.: NDSUVM1.370UD140469 Posted: Sat Oct 17 01:11:55 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 18-Oct-87 09:22:42 EDT Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computer Network, Fargo, ND Lines: 40 DISCLAIMER: Author bears full responsibility for contents of this article. I'm posting this message because I'm in a bit of a quandry: I like OSS products, and always have (their cartridge based assembler on the 8 bit was my favorite tool, and their Pascal has been my favorite on the ST), and they have always had a reputation of being a good company, with really good customer relations--until recently. It all stems from the release of version 2.0 of their Pascal. It seems that they've customer relations has fallen apart. Examples: A net-friend of mine (hi, Holly!) send in her order and visa # to get the update AND was billed probably four or five months before she ever got a product! The OSS of a couple of years ago never would have done that, would they? Another point: the manual--I know (from working once at a place that developed software) that the last delay in getting software out the door always seemed to be the manual, but hey OSS--a month and a half?! Last point-- I called them a LOT (I was really anxious to get it), and every time I was told that because I called in my order would be placed at the head of the queue to go out. Well, I began to hear of people getting their packages, so I called up OSS to see where mine was. Well, it had gone out the 23rd according to the guy on the phone (you mean it didn't go out a week ago like you told me it most likely would?). On the sixth I called them again (hey folks, I know North Dakota is a bit out of the way, but almost two weeks?). That time I talked with a fellow I'd talked with several times before, and he said that my order had gone out the first. Well, I suspected someone had been lying to me the first time I called, but didn't say anything because I know it could also have been an honest mistake. I waited (again) until the 13th, when I was just about ready to call them yet again when it finally came! As I mentioned in an earlier posting, I haven't had time to study it in depth yet, but it looks to have some really nice improvements (although I've found at least three typos in the manual already...). Then I looked at the postmark date--Oct 8th, a week after I had been told that it had definitely been shipped. RAGE! ANGER! etc. I'm going to call them again to 'lodge a protest,' but before I do, I was wondering if anyone else has something they'd like to add to my list, or if anyone would like to come to OSS's defense (I haven't gotten their side of the story yet, but will post it when I do). I'm hoping that this is just a run of rotten luck and bad timing for OSS, and that this isn't a new face for what has previously been a very nice company.... Scott Udell UD140469@NDSUVM1.BITNET *