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Subject: Re: GNU Emacs hates Ultrix DECnet?
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Date: Sun, 1-Nov-87 19:30:19 EST
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Posted: Sun Nov  1 19:30:19 1987
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In article <18441@teknowledge-vaxc.ARPA> mkhaw@teknowledge-vaxc.ARPA (Mike Khaw) writes:
>
>When I "dlogin" from my Ultrix 1.2 VAX to my uVMS 4.5 GPX on a
>vt100 and try to run GNU Emacs 18.41, Emacs doesn't see C-x, C-u, or DEL.
>
>- I 'DEFINE EMACS_TERM "vt100"' before starting emacs.
>
>- When I'm at the DCL prompt, ^X, ^U and DEL work OK over ultrix decnet.
>
>- When I decnet from another VMS machine to the GPX on a vt100, emacs works
>  fine.
>
>- When I'm logged in directly at the GPX, with the vt220 emulation window
>  type set to vt100 and "SET TERM/VT100", emacs works fine.

I have run in to this problem before and brought it to DEC's attention.  I
have not heard anything yet.  (I actually reported it when I couldn't get
micro-Emacs to work.  When it occured later with GNU-Emacs, I reported it,
but left it at that.)

It is a general problem in DECNET.  The best that I have been able to track
down is that it has something to do with the way DECNET interacts with the
PTY mechanism.  Apparently, ther terminal is not being set into the corrent
mode.  (Note:  I had a similar problem going the other way.  When I SET
HOST to an Ultrix machine, some characters would be lost.  I fixed that
with the following DCL command file, which I called DLOGIN.COM:

$ SET TERM/PASSALL
$ SET HOST 'p1
$ SET TERM/NOPASSALL

All this, however, did not help me log in to VMS from my GPX and run any
form of Emacs.  I did find out that if you have TCP/IP running on VMS, you
can use TELNET without any problems.  (Note that you must also have TCP/IP
on your Ultrix machine, but I have not seen one yet that doesn't have
TCP/IP and has DECNET.)

So what I do is use telnet instead of dlogin to go from Ultrix to VMS.

-Israel

P.S.  If I ever hear from DEC, I will post on comp.unix.ultrix.


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