Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ucbvax!husc6!hscfvax!pavlov From: pavlov@hscfvax.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Re: looking for DOS greppers Message-ID: <463@hscfvax.UUCP> Date: Thu, 29-Oct-87 10:34:47 EST Article-I.D.: hscfvax.463 Posted: Thu Oct 29 10:34:47 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 1-Nov-87 00:45:49 EST References: <331@gvgspd.UUCP> <312@mks.UUCP> <4651@zen.berkeley.edu> Organization: Health Sciences Computing Facility, Harvard University Lines: 25 In article <4651@zen.berkeley.edu>, iverson@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Tim Iverson) writes: > I'm getting kinda tired of hearing about MKS. It's as if everyone who got > suckered into plunking down their $70 (or what ever it is), wants to make > sure everyone else gets taken in, too. Alot of the tools you can get from > them are available in source and in the public domain (the only one I haven't > seen is awk)..... I have done both, e.g., downloaded pd routines and (ultimately) purchased MKS. I very much appreciated the time and effort people invested in pro- viding free software "for the rest of us". But I also saw the cost-effective- ness of the MKS package to me (and to others, I am sure, for various reasons; access to and the wherewithal to adapt code to a particular c-compiler is one of them). The MKS package has two "big" features that particularly appealed to me: a solid implementation of vi and a shell that recognizes file wild-cards (yes, I could have added the latter to all the pd programs in which this was missing. But I spend little enough time with my family as it is....). Naturally, I still use much pd software - both on my pc and on our uVAXen (compress, less, bm, etc). So: I am not in any way criticizing the pd route. But the MKS and similar packages are, from my point of view, an excellent "buy" for many people- and this forum is a good one for making them aware of their availabili- ty. greg pavlov, fstrf, amherst, ny