Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!stratix!zeus From: zeus@stratix.UUCP (Mark Mullin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Re: Windows/graphics query Message-ID: <174@stratix.UUCP> Date: Thu, 29-Oct-87 11:31:51 EST Article-I.D.: stratix.174 Posted: Thu Oct 29 11:31:51 1987 Date-Received: Wed, 4-Nov-87 04:54:09 EST References: <45900081@uxe.cso.uiuc.edu> <1048@cup.portal.com> <10140@felix.UUCP> <419@srs.UUCP> Organization: Stratix Inc,McLean VA Lines: 41 Summary: MS-Windows has SERIOUS defects In article <419@srs.UUCP>, dan@srs.UUCP (Dan Kegel) writes: > > Unlike Windows, GEM has been a real product for years... >. >. >. > In the MS-DOS world, these conditions will probably be met by Windows-386 > running on a 640x480 screen. > Perhaps other windowing systems already meet these conditions. > > Comments, anyone? > > - Dan Kegel (...rochester!srs!dan) I gave MS the benefit of the doubt and spent a great deal of money moving certain applications to Windows. My end feeling is that MS is way over their head, the package is basically unstable, and there are multiple instances where they have convinced people to spend money on their failed promises. More than resolution is a concern here, the primary concerns about multiple representations of data being best addressed by Object Oriented systems such as Smalltalk,C++, and the like. With MS's implementation strategy being so weak, I believe that Apple truly has a possible big win with the MAC II. There you have windows coupled into a nice development environment without MS's unfortunate tendancy to mimic IBM's more abstruse command and program grammars. The basic viewpoint in windowing must address far more than screen resolution, given the fact that windowing operations are as complex as they are. When considering such a user interface, high resolution isn't worth too much when the basic system makes these types of interfaces prohibitivly expensive. PS: To flamers, I realize I have offered opinions without backing facts. I have done this deliberatly to avoid overloading the net with undesired data. If there is enough interest (heat) I am very willing to prove my little thesis. MS has cost me a fortune, in cash and credibility, and I would love to save others the grief I have gone through. Mark Mullin @ Stratix Inc uunet!stratix!mark Experiments must be reproducible. They must fail in the same way.