Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!dciem!nrcaer!cognos!roberts From: roberts@cognos.uucp (Robert Stanley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: hypertext vs. hypercards Message-ID: <1555@cognos.UUCP> Date: Mon, 12-Oct-87 16:54:14 EDT Article-I.D.: cognos.1555 Posted: Mon Oct 12 16:54:14 1987 Date-Received: Wed, 14-Oct-87 04:35:10 EDT References: <689@ufcsg.cis.ufl.EDU> <6421@apple.UUCP> Reply-To: roberts@cognos.UUCP (Robert Stanley) Organization: Cognos Inc., Ottawa, Canada Lines: 30 Summary: HyperCard is not real hypertext In article <6421@apple.UUCP> keith@apple.UUCP (Keith Rollin) writes: >There are 2 methods suggested in the 1st and only issue of Windoid, Apple's >Hypercard User Group's informal publication (it was posted here a couple of >weeks ago). >Method #1: Place a tansparent button over the word in question, or an > asterisk button after it. This has the advantage of not being > ambiguous, but it is not flexible (i.e. the button doesn't move > with the text, as in a scrolling field). there is one really serious problem with this approach, and that is that the font in which the text is displayed must not be altered. I ran into this in a big way with the first distributed version of HyperCard, where the help stack uses a transparent button over a text asterisk to link to additional information. Whatever font the help stack used, I don't appear to have on my system, and the asterisks displayed with only the most casual of relation to the position of the buttons! Absolutely baffling to a novice user. You can, however, write scripts capable of detecting specifici lines, words, and words within lines, but it gets to be a lot of programming, and is also susceptible to font changes (number of words per line changes). This is clearly one for Bill Atkinson, to allow a LIVE word within a text string to be used as a sub-button or sub-field. -- Robert Stanley Cognos Incorporated S-mail: P.O. Box 9707 Voice: (613) 738-1440 (Research: there are 2!) 3755 Riverside Drive FAX: (613) 738-0002 Compuserve: 76174,3024 Ottawa, Ontario uucp: decvax!utzoo!dciem!nrcaer!cognos!roberts CANADA K1G 3Z4