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From: alan@pdn.UUCP (Alan Lovejoy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac
Subject: Re: Need advice on Coral Lisp and Smalltalk
Message-ID: <1645@pdn.UUCP>
Date: Sat, 24-Oct-87 19:42:55 EST
Article-I.D.: pdn.1645
Posted: Sat Oct 24 19:42:55 1987
Date-Received: Tue, 27-Oct-87 03:43:09 EST
References: <31805@gt-cmmsr.GATECH.EDU> <912@pur-phy> <4789@oberon.USC.EDU>
Reply-To: alan@pdn.UUCP (0000-Alan Lovejoy)
Organization: Paradyne Corporation, Largo, Florida
Lines: 33
Keywords: Coral Lisp, Smalltalk80, Mac II

In article <4789@oberon.USC.EDU> barad@willy.usc.edu (Herb Barad) writes:
/In article <912@pur-phy> cca@pur-phy (Charles C. Allen) writes:
/>think others might be interested).  I have in front of me a packet of
/>info from ParcPlace describing their Smalltalk-80 system.  I have also
/>talked to their support personnel a couple of times.
/>
/>version, or buy the support package.  Ack!  I have a little trouble
/>visualizing the kind of market they're going after.  It certainly
/>isn't people like me.
/
/I have no trouble visualizing who they are going after.  I have been
/using PS (the name of their Smalltalk-80) for quite a while now on a
/Sun workstation.  This product for the Mac II is just a port of that.
/I have a feeling that it will provide toolbox support, but I'm not
/sure of it.
/
/The price mentioned for PS is not all that high for industry.  That's
/who they are going after.  They cannot compete with Apple's $50 price
/just because of the complexity of PS.  By the way, there IS a
/university discount and it is quite nice (90% DISCOUNT).
/

PS/68020 is the creme de la creme of ST-80 systems.  On the Mac II it's
102% of a Dorado in performance (Smalltalk-AT on a PC's LTD 386 is
something on the order of 27% of a Dorado).  Highly recommended if you
can scrape up the pennies.

If not, then you can buy either Smalltalk/V from Digitalk (now in beta),
or Actor (not ST-80, but the best alternative; not yet available, but
it should be by Summer '88 or thereabouts), or even the next release of
Apple Smalltalk (Kent Beck is currently perfecting it).

--alan@pdn (Hope this helps...)