Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!rochester!PT.CS.CMU.EDU!K.GP.CS.CMU.EDU!tdn From: tdn@K.GP.CS.CMU.EDU.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: Red Ryder _10.2_ is on Genie NOW!! Message-ID: <277@PT.CS.CMU.EDU> Date: Mon, 2-Nov-87 01:02:11 EST Article-I.D.: PT.277 Posted: Mon Nov 2 01:02:11 1987 Date-Received: Wed, 4-Nov-87 19:45:04 EST References: <377UD069225@NDSUVM1> <172@ut-emx.UUCP> <297@ur-tut.UUCP> <2442@usceast.UUCP> <218NETOPRDC@NCSUVM> <32335@sun.uucp> Sender: netnews@PT.CS.CMU.EDU Organization: Carnegie-Mellon University, CS/RI Lines: 34 In article <32335@sun.uucp> chuq@sun.UUCP (Chuq Von Rospach) writes: >In article <218NETOPRDC@NCSUVM> NETOPRDC@NCSUVM.BITNET (Daniel Carr) writes: >Yes, he would. 10.2 is a commercial product, and to get into the SIG that it >is posted on you have to be a registered user. Just posting it to this >network defeats that. > >>Personally speaking, if I think it's better that 9.4, i will pay for it. >>If I don't, i'll trash it. > >Red Ryder is no longer a shareware package as of 10.0. You don't get this >option anymore. If more people had paid for their shareware versions, Watson >might not have had to make this decision.... > >chuq It is my impression that Scott Watson has done quite well by the shareware versions of Red Ryder. His boast that Red Ryder had outsold all the other Macintosh terminal programs combined with the strong sales MacTerminal has enjoyed, Watson's low advertising/distribution costs, and magazines giving Red Ryder as an example of successful shareware do not add up to a lack of paying users forcing him to make the product commercial. I think the real reason that he took Red Ryder commercial is that he thinks he can make even more money by doubling its price, now that he has $$$ from shareware fees to finance the startup period of a "real" commercial product. In fact, Watson made comments on the Freesoft roundtable to the effect that he thinks shareware is a great way to raise startup capital! It's a slight miracle that Red Ryder 10.2 can be downloaded from the FreeSoft roundtable; the comments that he and other Freesoft Roundtable operators made when 10.0 was announced sounded pretty mercenary (like claiming that the promises Red Ryder manuals and registration forms made are not really legally binding on Freesoft/Watson, despite their wording and his acceptance of the money). -- Thomas Newton