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From: dshr@SUN.COM (David Rosenthal)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: Xtk on Sun 3/50 does it work?
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Date: Tue, 27-Oct-87 09:10:20 EST
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Posted: Tue Oct 27 09:10:20 1987
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Alas, the Xtk toolkit is almost  completely broken,  especially on Suns.
It is riddled with null pointer bugs,  and the  only Widget  type that I
have yet made work properly is Label.  There is no  documentation of the
interfaces or  behaviour  of  the  exisiting  Widget   types,  which  is
essential for anyone wanting to use it for developing applications; what
documentation there is is aimed  at those  wishing to  develop their own
Widget types.  ButtonBox  works for  laying out  Labels (sometimes), but
fails miserably to lay out the other types of Widget I've tried.

Officially, I  believe  the  basic  toolkit  is  in Beta  and the Widget
selection is  in  Alpha.   What  this means  is that  everyone out there
should be trying to use it, and fixing the bugs they find, and reporting
the fixes to "xbugs".  Remember,  the only way to make X.11 a success is
for everyone to pitch in and help.

	David.

PS - note to whoever is responsible for Xtk:  Its  really very difficult
to decide if something is a bug if there is  no description  of what, if
anything, the thing you suspect the bug is in is supposed to do.  PLEASE
post to the net anything you have in the way of  documentation about the
existing widgets - what resources  they use,  what they  are supposed to
look like, what their limitations are; anything at all would help to get
the toolkit debugged.