Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!hao!boulder!sunybcs!rutgers!topaz.rutgers.edu!brandx.rutgers.edu!webber From: webber@brandx.rutgers.edu (Webber) Newsgroups: news.admin Subject: Re: these sites have not filed an arbitron report Message-ID: <503@brandx.rutgers.edu> Date: Mon, 26-Oct-87 02:15:50 EST Article-I.D.: brandx.503 Posted: Mon Oct 26 02:15:50 1987 Date-Received: Tue, 27-Oct-87 07:13:13 EST References: <11960@decwrl.DEC.COM> Distribution: na Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. Lines: 42 Summary: summary of 2000+ line message Considering the difficulty many people have reading a message of 100 lines in the same message, I assume most people didn't even bother reading the recent 2000+ line missive from decwrl. So, let me excerp the significant parts: In article <11960@decwrl.DEC.COM>, reid@decwrl.dec.com (Brian Reid) writes: > ... > Here is the list of sites that have posted an article to USENET in the last > 30 days but have not filed an arbitron report. I note with satisfaction that > about 60% of the complainers come from sites on this list. > ... > 3) You are a VMS site or a TOPS-20 site or an IBM site or something like > that. Again, what can I say. mod.newprod, or whatever it is called > these days since the "reorganization", regularly carries announcements > of $5000 Unix boxes :-) > ... > The list: > ... > decvax > decwrl.arpa > ... I wonder if Sun would give Digital an educational discount? Anyway, it is certainly interesting that the sites of 40% of ``complainers'' continue to participate in this waste of cpu and bandwidth. Now what would be really interesting is to see a graph tracking the number of new arbitron reporting sites versus the old ones that tire of it versus the old ones who have long forgotten that they are even doing it. How much improvement in the stats results from each broadcast of source. Also, why not report the stats on the basis of the size of number of readers on the sites or industrial vs academic vs government vs independent vs personal. If we have to endure this eternal quest for numbers -- at least make them interesting numbers. Indeed, if there is bandwidth for the software, there should be bandwidth for the raw data. Then everyone can draw their own conclusions from the data. -------- BOB (webber@aramis.rutgers.edu ; rutgers!aramis.rutgers.edu!webber)