Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!seismo!husc6!hao!ames!lll-lcc!ptsfa!hoptoad!gnu From: gnu@hoptoad.uucp (John Gilmore) Newsgroups: news.admin Subject: Expiration dates -- me too! Message-ID: <2640@hoptoad.uucp> Date: Thu, 6-Aug-87 05:21:06 EDT Article-I.D.: hoptoad.2640 Posted: Thu Aug 6 05:21:06 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 8-Aug-87 09:44:19 EDT Expires: Thu, 5-Nov-87 21:34:52 EDT References: <2525@hoptoad.uucp> <6957@g.ms.uky.edu> <3646@well.UUCP> <24948@sun.uucp> Organization: Nebula Consultants in San Francisco Lines: 40 I find it odd that people are suggesting that every news admin on every system should be editing their expire scripts and making multiple passes over their news file system to "clean up" after a few people who want "a little more" of your disk space than the rest of the net. It seems to me that instead, the moderators of comp.*.amiga and otherrealms should forego the use of Expires: and instead broadcast an appeal to news admins to go in and edit their expiry scripts by hand so that these newsgroups will stick around longer. I'm bothered that the folks who want exceptional treatment are just quietly "taking" it rather than asking each news admin for it. I think that the default on this 6800-site network should be that news admins don't have to do anything to keep their system running OK. However, it seems that the net has pretty much decided that people are free to systematically put Expires: lines into their postings. That's OK by me, I'm willing to conform, and I guess I *will* change my expire script after all. [Enter sarcasm: By the way, I've decided that my postings are more important than yours, so I am putting a 3-month expiry date on them. I am constantly getting requests for things that I posted and I have found a solution. While your words quietly slip off disks all over the world, mine will remain. I only post a hundred K or so a month, so it will be no great load on the net. *** I encourage anyone else who reads this to add their choice of Expires: line to each posting they create, too. *** Sources moderators, how about expiring your postings in 2 or 3 years, then we can get rid of the archives, which were always a bother to maintain, plus consider all the e-mail traffic they generate. Exit sarcasm, stage left.] Nothing like fighting anarchy with anarchy, especially when the net has just hashed it out and decided you have the right. PS: Now looks like a good time to buy stock in disk manufacturers! -- {dasys1,ncoast,well,sun,ihnp4}!hoptoad!gnu gnu@postgres.berkeley.edu Alt.all: the alternative radio of the Usenet.