Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!mit-eddie!uw-beaver!tektronix!tekcrl!tekfdi!videovax!stever From: stever@videovax.Tek.COM (Steven E. Rice, P.E.) Newsgroups: sci.crypt Subject: Re: An interesting message from SECURITY-DIGEST@RUTGERS Message-ID: <4623@videovax.Tek.COM> Date: Wed, 14-Oct-87 17:14:23 EDT Article-I.D.: videovax.4623 Posted: Wed Oct 14 17:14:23 1987 Date-Received: Fri, 16-Oct-87 07:26:00 EDT References: <7449@reed.UUCP> <8746@utzoo.UUCP> <471@auscso.UUCP> <5416@jade.BERKELEY.EDU> Reply-To: stever@videovax.Tek.COM (Steven E. Rice, P.E.) Organization: Tektronix Television Systems, Beaverton, Oregon Lines: 63 Keywords: NSA, DES, STU-III Summary: Oh, no you can't! In article <5416@jade.BERKELEY.EDU>, James Moore (jmm@thoth16.berkeley.edu.BERKELEY.EDU) writes: > . . . > Even more important is that I have the right to say whatever > I want to to whomever I wish without any hint of government interference. A novel idea! Not one that is supported by the Constitution or the law, however. . . You do not have the right to say or print falsehoods about others ("slander" and "libel," respectively). You do not have the right to falsely shout "Fire!" in a crowded theater. You do not have the right to tell your employer's competitor the details of your employer's trade secrets (theft of trade secrets). You do not have the right to say, "I'm gonna kill the President!" You do not have the right to divulge the contents of radio broadcasts unless they were intended for a general audience (Communications Act of 1939). Nor do you have the right to divulge classified material to an unauthorized person. Remember the Pollard case (he and his wife were spying for Israel)? That was only a few months ago. Within the past year, a case was broken in which several Navy men were spying for the Soviets. And there was another case in which a naturalized man of Chinese ancestry was spying for Red China (he committed suicide in his jail cell, as I recall). Each of these people were arrested (and in most cases, convicted) of saying whatever they wanted to (classified material) to whomever they wished (foreign governments). You most emphatically do *not* "have the right to say whatever [you] want to to whomever [you] wish without any hint of government interference." *Most* of your speech is indeed thus protected. But not all!!! > The government doesn't have the right to open my mail inside > the US without a search warrant, and as far as I'm concerned > they don't have the right to open it outside of the United States. > . . . Please note that the Supreme Court has ruled on this issue in the past and does not agree with you. > . . . Any other > course of action (such as reading all encrypted material on the > basis that it _might_ be illegal) is unconstitutional. Again, this is your interpretation of the Constitution. However, the Founding Fathers specified that the Supreme Court is the final arbiter of such questions. (Note that having Congress outlaw such activities merely makes them illegal -- not unconstitutional. A later Congress could reverse itself with no basis for interference from the Supreme Court.) As of this date your views are not those of the Court. In summary, such activities *are* Constitutional, and will continue to be so until the Court reverses itself, or a Constitutional amendment is passed which specifically outlaws that which you abhor. Steve Rice ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- new: stever@videovax.tv.Tek.com old: {decvax | hplabs | ihnp4 | uw-beaver | cae780}!tektronix!videovax!stever