Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!ut-sally!ut-ngp!auscso!johnm From: johnm@auscso.UUCP (John B. Meaders) Newsgroups: sci.crypt Subject: Re: Secrecy Shibboleth Message-ID: <497@auscso.UUCP> Date: Thu, 15-Oct-87 02:01:12 EDT Article-I.D.: auscso.497 Posted: Thu Oct 15 02:01:12 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 17-Oct-87 05:00:16 EDT Reply-To: johnm@auscso.UUCP (John B. Meaders, Jr.) Organization: Austin UNIX Users' Group, Austin, TX Lines: 34 Organization: Austin UNIX Users' Group, Austin, TX Lines: 32 I feel that I should better explain my position. First I thank everyone for not flaming me as is the practice on other groups. I cherish my right to say what I please like everyone else. And yes I think it would be great if I never had to worry about having my conversations monitored. But in this day and age the chance of being monitored is great. Computers do a lot of the monitoring searching for keywords and when they find one they log the conversation or whatever was being monitored (I am no expert but I have read "Puzzle Palace" and I gather that is how it goes). In the past year and a half my phone has been tapped numerous times (either that or my phone lines like generating beeps at odd times). There are several reasons for a tap on myself: a) what I do in the Army Reserve, b) my computer use of the phone, c) some of my friends have jobs that could cause them to come under surveillance. I guess being in the military and knowing that you are prone to routine surveillance has caused me take it for granted and no longer bothers me. Why should it really if I am doing nothing wrong. Sure I give up some freedom, but that is a price I pay for doing what I do (which I enjoy). People not involved in the Intelligence community aren't used to being surveilled, so to you I apologize if I sound like Ed Meese. It is comforting for me, though, to realize I may be under friendly surveillance because that may catch enemy surveillance of myself or CYA if the Threat tries to blackmail me, etc. In summary, I don't think everyone should have to submit to invasion of privacy. But being a member of the Intelligence communtiy and a student has caused me not to mind any surveillance (imagined or actual) of myself. I am not an Ed Meese clone, just a product of my training. -- John B. Meaders, Jr. 1114 Camino La Costa #3083, Austin, TX 78752 ATT: Voice: +1 (512) 451-5038 Data: +1 (512) 371-0550 UUCP: ...!ut-sally!ut-ngp!auscso!jclyde!john \johnm