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From: karn@faline.bellcore.com (Phil R. Karn)
Newsgroups: sci.crypt
Subject: Re: An interesting message from SECURITY-DIGEST@RUTGERS
Message-ID: <1479@faline.bellcore.com>
Date: Thu, 15-Oct-87 03:42:25 EDT
Article-I.D.: faline.1479
Posted: Thu Oct 15 03:42:25 1987
Date-Received: Sat, 17-Oct-87 06:46:12 EDT
References: <7449@reed.UUCP> <8746@utzoo.UUCP> <471@auscso.UUCP>
Organization: Bell Communications Research, Inc
Lines: 22
Keywords: NSA, DES, STU-III
Summary: Quote from the Founding Fathers

> It would be foolish not too.  However, I don't think a private party should
> feel it necessary to have something unbreakable so the NSA couldn't monitor.
> If they are so against it, they must be doing something illegal.  There is
> a price to pay for freedom, and that means Uncle Sam must monitor overseas
> traffic and some domestic traffic to make sure involved parties aren't
> doing things that jeopardize our security.  Please direct all flames to
> /dev/null because if you aren't willing to give up something for freedom,
> I don't want to here from you.

Before you get too carried away in your fervently patriotic defense of
freedom and liberty, I'd like to quote one of our Founding Fathers. (After
all, invoking their name in tones of reverent awe is quite fashionable
this year. Shouldn't we look at some of the things they actually said?)

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" -- Benjamin Franklin

Funny how this particular quote doesn't get much mention by those fervently
patriotic individuals who are trying to tell me that they have to destroy
my freedom in order to save it.

Phil