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From: jmm@thoth16.berkeley.edu.BERKELEY.EDU
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Subject: Re: An interesting message from SECURITY-DIGEST@RUTGERS
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Date: Tue, 20-Oct-87 15:06:47 EDT
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In article <4623@videovax.Tek.COM> stever@videovax.Tek.COM (Steven E. Rice, P.E.) writes:
>In article <5416@jade.BERKELEY.EDU>, James Moore
>(jmm@thoth16.berkeley.edu.BERKELEY.EDU) writes:
>> Even more important is that I have the right to say whatever
>> I want to to whomever I wish without any hint of government interference.
>A novel idea!  Not one that is supported by the Constitution or the law,
>however. . .
>You do not have the right to say or print falsehoods about others
>("slander" and "libel," respectively).  You do not have the right to
...
>
>					Steve Rice
>new: stever@videovax.tv.Tek.com
>old: {decvax | hplabs | ihnp4 | uw-beaver | cae780}!tektronix!videovax!stever

Your point is valid - let me correct what I posted initially.

I can say whatever I want to.  Once I have said it, I am responsible for my
statements, and if if it decided in court that I violated laws regarding libel,
endangering public safety by screaming 'fire,' or telling the Soviets the exact
location of every vitally important widget in the US Navy, then I can be fined or
jailed.  HOWEVER, none of this gives the government the right to listen to my
private phone conversations (inside or outside the United States - I am aware of
the court's decision and I think it is wrong) before a suspicion of guilt has
been established and a warrant issued by a court.

James Moore

James Moore
...!ucbvax!leggatt!jmm

	"Ocus ba hairi no fertha leu acht cluchi
	ocus cheti ocus anius ocus aibinnius
	ocus longad ocus tomailt, conid de sin
	atat na trenae samna sechnon na hErend."
	     -as an sceal _Seirgligi Con Culaind inso sis ocus oenet Emire_ 
James Moore
..!ucbvax!leggatt!jmm

"Ocus ba hairi no fertha leu acht cluchi
ocus cheti ocus anius ocus aibinnius
ocus longad ocus tomailt, conid de sin
atat na trenae samna sechnon na hErend."
     -as an sceal _Seirgligi Con Culaind inso sis ocus oenet Emire_