Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!rutgers!ames!mike From: mike@ames.arpa (Mike Smithwick) Newsgroups: sci.space.shuttle Subject: Re: Throttling the Challenger Message-ID: <3143@ames.arpa> Date: Sat, 17-Oct-87 19:43:38 EDT Article-I.D.: ames.3143 Posted: Sat Oct 17 19:43:38 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 18-Oct-87 12:11:27 EDT References: <340@ablnc.ATT.COM> Reply-To: mike@ames.UUCP (Mike Smithwick) Organization: NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, Calif. Lines: 48 Keywords: Challenger Throttle In article <340@ablnc.ATT.COM> rcpilz@ablnc.ATT.COM (Robert C. Pilz) writes: > >One thing about the crash has been haunting me. When I saw >the replays of the explosion, I heard the commands to the >crew to be at 105% throttle. They acknowledged that. Then they >were told to go to 80% (or so). They acknowledged that. Then >they were told (very quickly) to go back to 105%. At this point, >the explosion happened. >This was never discussed in the national news. At least I never >picked up on it. What were they (the flight people) trying to >do? I have a strong feeling that they knew something was wrong >at that point and were trying to do something? Was the extra >boost supposed to put out the flame? Use up the fuel? Could >that have made things worse? >Nothing was said. I have not had a chance to read any of the >detailed reports. What you noticed is merely standard procedures for a shuttle launch. First, when you hear the engines running at "105%", that means that they are running at 105% of their originally intended performance, and not that the're pushing them beyond their limits ("Captain Kirk, the warp drive is gonna blow if we keep this up . . ."). They crank them suckers up to 100% or more at the start of the launch, then ease them back to 75 or 80% as they are going thru "Max-Q" or the region of maximum dynamic pressure, so as to ease loads. They will then go back to the 100%+ range at about T+ 65 seconds. With 51L, that was only 5 seconds or so before the explosion. Alot of the early speculation right after the accident by the newstypes, centered around the "throttle up" call, and what effects it might've had. This brings to mind, though, what Mission control might have done had they noticed the burn thru. Would they have notified the crew and risked that chance of them doing something stupid, or would they just keep quite and hope that they could ride it out. -- *** mike (powered by M&Ms) smithwick *** "ever felt like life was a game, and someone gave you the wrong instruction book?" [discalimer : nope, I don't work for NASA, I take full blame for my ideas]