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Date: Sat, 14-Nov-87 03:14:18 EST
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Posted: Sat Nov 14 03:14:18 1987
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Summary: International Defense Review

In article <5905@jade.BERKELEY.EDU> sunghou@violet.berkeley.edu (Sung-Hou KimGroup) writes:

>Just for the counter-terrorist on the net there are a couple
>of great books and magazines (journals) out there:

>International Defense Review, this is an extremely expensive journal and is
>pretty much the Playboy of the tanks & subs set, written like a journal and
>not like the National Enquirer, but, lots of pictures and info. ...

This evokes memories for me. The IDR is a NATO, or NATO-affiliated,
publication. For some reason I have only seen it in classified
facilities, but I'm sure they'd be happy to send it to anyone who
pays. No doubt it is a big hit with the soldier-of-fortune crowd.

What is so striking about IDR is that it serves as a medium for all
the international, and especially European, arms manufacturers to
advertise. "Speaking of mines..." begins one slick spread from an
Italian firm -- as I remember it had a floral border -- and goes on
with performance data, from the little anti-personnel (40-gm load) to
the "Big Bertha" anti-tank model (25 kg). I found it even more than
usually chilling, for the idiom.  Can you imagine Madison Avenue firms
dreaming up the pitches?   ("Yes, but will it play in Pretoria?")