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From: daveb@pogo.UUCP
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Subject: Re: Why call 'em dirtballs (Eric and John)
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Date: Thu, 5-Nov-87 00:38:59 EST
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Posted: Thu Nov  5 00:38:59 1987
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Reply-To: daveb@pogo.UUCP (Dave Butler)
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Isn't it precious. Right here on the net we have a mutual mental masturbation
society consisting of two members: Eric Mading and John B. Meaders. One exposes
some of his half baked philosophical drivel and the other responds with 
mental strokes on how good it was. 

Right now the subject is drugs. John has decided that all drug users are 
"dirtballs", and Eric gushes all over himself about how right John is. In 
fact Eric says:

> I will be missed when I pass on to heaven.  That is because I am
> LIVING.  Those who use drugs are not living, they are just EXISTING.

So therefore Eric, anyone who uses drugs will not be missed when they die. Hmm, 
I guess that means that no one can possibly care for anyone who uses drugs.
Well let's take a look at just a few of these "dirtballs" that you say are 
"just EXISTING":

W C Fields: He was a complete alcoholic (you did say that alcoholics were as 
bad a other drug addicts didn't you?). 

Toulouse Lautrec: Nineteenth century impressionist painter. Was addicted to 
Absinth. Absinth is a potent drug based on wormwood and alcohol, and is 
illegal in the United States (It's known for being a hallucinogen).

Wolfgang Mozart: You know,... the composer? Yep, he was an Absinth drinker too.

Rev Dodson: alias Lewis Carol, you know the guy who wrote "Alice in
Wonderland" and several books on set theory. There's a lot of evidence to
suggest that he liked "shrooms" (That's hallucinogenic mushrooms to you Eric). 

Sir Richard Burton: British explorer that found the headwaters of the Nile.
Was known to have smoked hash, and possibly have done other drugs.

All these people were "just EXISTING" huh? Well each one of them gave more 
to the world than Eric Mading has or could. And I'm sure that I could find a 
lot more famous persons that imbibed as well. Now, let's look at some more 
recent "dirtballs":

Paul McCartney: Kicked out of Japan for possessing pot.

The Moody Blues: One time disciples of Timothy Leary.

The Grateful Dead, etc, etc, etc....

Eric, it's hard to believe that all these people are/were just "dirtballs" 
that won't be missed when they're gone, and in fact I don't believe it. I do 
believe though, that you're so caught in your crusade on drugs, that you 
have a hard time separating facts from emotional name calling and smear 
tactics. If you want to tell why drugs are bad, present your EVIDENCE, but 
quit making ignorant and stupid generalizations about how worthless and vile 
a class of people are (ie: no ad hominem attacks, even though I know that 
it'll be hard for you). 

Actually Eric, I think that the only correct statement in your article, 
was where you said:
 
> I will be missed when I pass on

But you won't be missed in a good way (like the way people miss a close 
friend); rather, you'll be missed in the same manner as when a person notices 
a source of irritation and pain has departed (eg: "Hey Martha!! My 
hemorrhoids are gone!!").

Yes John and Eric, there are other people who are the assholes of the net,
but you two are definitely the hemorrhoids.

				Later,

				Dave Butler

    Remember: Silly is a state of Mind, Stupid is a way of Life.