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From: karl@ddsw1.UUCP
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Subject: Re: The despicability of drug cops.
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Date: Thu, 5-Nov-87 11:28:57 EST
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Posted: Thu Nov  5 11:28:57 1987
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Summary: I'm a *VICTIM* and narc's are still dispicable!

In article <627@auscso.UUCP> johnm@auscso.UUCP (John B. Meaders, Jr.) writes:
>Hey Russell, you actually advocate cop killing huh?  I guess if you had
>need of a cop (like someone trying to kill you) and he actually helped you
>would most likely change your tune (even if it were only for a short time).
>You are a HYPOCRITE.  People like you moan and groan about the rights of
	   ^^^^^^^^^^--- WRONG -- see below.
>criminals until you yourself are a victim.  I hope you have no need of a
>cop, since through your advocation of their death you really don't deserve
>one.  And YES, narcotics agents are POLICE OFFICERS, they just have to deal
>with the dregs of society more so than other cops.  I pity you for advocating
>cop killing.

Okey.... Now you've touched a sensitive spot...

John, please read this entire article before responding.  Then read it
again, and again.  Maybe what I have to say will sink in.

First, let me state my prejudice.  I *have* been kidnapped.  You know, at
gun-point, the whole bit.  I have prosecuted the thugs which did the
despicable deed.  There never was a trial -- they 'copped a plea', as the
saying goes.....  The several hours I spent with a gun at my head gave me
quite a bit of first-hand knowledge.... an experience I would rather not
repeat, thank you.  Thus, *I AM A VICTIM*.

The POLICE were responsible for taking care of this problem (after the fact, 
they're *never* there when you need them).  I *still* believe that drug 
police (ie: narcs) are the lowest form of life around.  After talking with
several of these people for an extended period of time, I have not changed
my mind -- nor has the experience above done so, *NOT EVEN FOR A MINUTE*.
These guys actually think they can change the world -- that what they are
doing is *right*!  That imprisoning people, destroying their lives, and
taking their property, all for possessing or selling a little of the whacky
weed (or whatever have you) is not only justifyable, it is their DUTY.

Think about this, John.  I have been a victim.  The police did their duty,
they punished those who took action that *harmed another*.  The drug police
take action against those *who have harmed themselves*.  See the difference
yet?  While I have no problem with those members of the force who did their
duty in arresting these thugs, prosecuting them, etc., I *do* have a problem
with drug officers.  In my mind they have no right to take the action that
they do -- it's outside of my definition of what the proper role of
government, and government-sanctioned action should be.

Just because a narcotics officer is called a 'Police Officer' does not make
him/her equivalent to the officer who arrests and assists in prosecuting
kidnappers, murderers, rapists or burglers, any more than the person who
murders with a gun is equivalent to a 'hunter'.  

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