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Subject: Individual rights vs. Ray Frank
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Date: Sat, 7-Nov-87 17:11:32 EST
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Ray Frank writes:

>Weak people who easily find fault with everything that does not satisfy 
>their self-serving needs will find fault with many laws.  

Yeah, really.
Let's stop trying to change the world and 
***go out there and break some laws!!!***
Honest, officer, I wasn't finding fault with anybody...

Ray: if you abstract from your "teach the children about drugs" a bit,
you'll see that there's a difference between NEEDED laws
and bullshit laws.
By grouping everything into LAW, you're just making a bigger target
for someone to throw a bottle at
(and further entrenching the scum of the earth, the LAWYERS).

Like, what proportion of LAW goes to protecting "rights" of 
COMPANIES vs. rights of INDIVIDUALS?  WHO WAS THE ASSHOLE
WHO STARTED THIS "COMPANIES ARE INDIVIDUALS" BULLSHIT ANYWAY?
Oh -- um, where was I?

If you didn't understand that, try this, Ray kiddo:
even people who *like* to break laws generally agree that it's
nice to walk down the street without worrying about being shot.
Too many stupid laws means people tend to break more of them,
and generally adopt a casual attitude about them.
How fast do *you* drive on the highway, Ray?

I think that the reason so many people are against drugs is because
the people who do drugs openly are those who adopt a casual attitude
toward most laws.  This tends to scare old ladies, and sometimes
myself, depending upon what part of town I'm in.
Maybe if we let them do lots of drugs they'd leave us alone.
No, maybe if we had a war...

Then again, maybe this kind of stuff is necessary.
I mean, if you didn't see policemen every day you might forget 
they exist.

-- Steve

"I ask you, which is wrong, the people or the law?"
  -- Ray Frank