Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!hoptoad!ptsfa!ames!hao!husc6!bu-cs!acm From: acm@bu-cs.UUCP Newsgroups: alt.drugs,misc.legal,alt.flame Subject: Re: Why call 'em dirtballs Message-ID: <15591@bu-cs.BU.EDU> Date: Sun, 8-Nov-87 13:24:30 EST Article-I.D.: bu-cs.15591 Posted: Sun Nov 8 13:24:30 1987 Date-Received: Mon, 9-Nov-87 06:34:08 EST References: <1136@puff.wisc.edu> <23455COK@PSUVMA> <591@auscso.UUCP> <602@auscso.UUCP> <1196@puff.wisc.edu> Reply-To: madd@bucsb.bu.edu Followup-To: madd@bucsb.bu.edu Distribution: na Organization: Boston University ACM Lines: 51 Xref: hoptoad alt.drugs:613 misc.legal:3453 alt.flame:567 In article <1196@puff.wisc.edu> mading@puff.wisc.edu (Eric Mading) writes: >a drug overdose. This would give young people the message--DRUGS KILL. You're not listening, are you? Even many illegal drugs don't kill until you really abuse them. Often the deaths that occur happen because the quality of the drug they used was poor or they were sold a more potent drug than they expected. Legalization would solve that problem! Even still, the number of drug-related deaths is low, while drug usage is not. The number of tobacco- and alcohol-related deaths is not low although both are legal. Do drugs kill? Sure, if used irresponsibly. Almost anything can kill if used irresponsibly. Educating children that "drugs" are always deadly is not a solution. When the children start looking around them and find out that the "deadly" drugs are not (they surely will find this sort of thing out) they will be inclined to believe that their parents/teachers/etc have been lying to them. This will undermine their confidence towards authority figures. I can see the plan backfiring. On to other things: >As for welfare, I would like to see a complete reform in the welfare system. Welfare systems vary from state to state. In New Hampshire, the welfare system is one of the harshest in the nation. You don't get it unless you absolutely NEED it and it's still a bare-existance budget. This is not the case in other states. Sometime you should compare the policies of New York and New Hampshire and see the difference. More on this topic: >And welfare recipientsshould not be allowed to purchase lottery >tickets, alcohol, tobacco, or spend >their welfare money on horse or dog races, sporting evnets, or any other non- >necessitys. The best way to control this is to require all welfare recipients >to make their purchases with a automated teller machine card. Some of these >welfare reforms have already been implemented in Wisconsin. New Hampshire uses "food stamps" as a basic item. You may buy food with them, but only food. No lottery tickets, alcohol, tobacco, etc. This works quite well and does not require expensive equipment. >Eric Mading jim frost madd@bucsb.bu.edu