Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!hoptoad!amdahl!ames!husc6!bloom-beacon!dmjones From: dmjones@bloom-beacon.UUCP Newsgroups: misc.legal,alt.flame Subject: Re: Eric Mading's anti-jewish statements Message-ID: <1785@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU> Date: Wed, 11-Nov-87 20:56:40 EST Article-I.D.: bloom-be.1785 Posted: Wed Nov 11 20:56:40 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 14-Nov-87 04:25:45 EST References: <1351@codas.att.com> Sender: daemon@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU Reply-To: dmjones@athena.mit.edu (David M. Jones) Distribution: usa Organization: Expermental Spelling Group Lines: 40 Xref: hoptoad misc.legal:3559 alt.flame:607 Sorry to post two articles about the same topic in one day, but I just found the following in misc.legal. I also just found out that that Eric Mading has had his accounts pulled, and I anticipate a violent flurry of articles about fascists on the net who try to silence anyone with opposing views. (Excuse me while I try to jump out of the way. :-) This will be my last posting on the topic. If anyone wants to justify my paranoia, please do so via e-mail. In article <1351@codas.att.com> dlm@codas.att.com (Don_L_Million) writes: >> Flood the system managers at puff with e-mail and try to >> make them realize that just putting /mading@puff/h:j in >> our kill files is not enough. > >Eric Mading's anti-jewish statements demonstrate an incredible ignorance, >and a potentially dangerous lack of tolerance. The people who advocate >barring Eric from the net because of his opinions are demonstrating as >much ignorance, and as much lack of tolerance. Please go back and read my original article (copies available on receipt of a usable address if it has expired on your system). I never once mentioned having Eric kicked off the net. I did, however, advocate having someone, preferably a sysadmin, suggest that Eric assume a little more responsibility in his actions, especially in the area of thinking before posting. Why did I mention sysadmins in particular? Reread the first part of my posting. I thought that there was at least a small possibility that a real abuse of the system was taking place. It seems to me that a sysadmin would be in the best position to investigate that. Ironically, I seem to have been somewhat guilty of the same crime I have accused Eric of. I didn't anticipate that my suggestion would be interpreted as a call to arms to have Eric Mading thrown off of the net. My main consolation here is that I don't think anyone could claim that I am solely responsible for what happened. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ David M. Jones (ESGGM) | "Here, pounded by the surf, my Real_Network: dmjones@athena.mit.edu | corpse still lies, carried up and Fake_Net: ...!mit-eddie!mit-athena!dmjones | down on the heaving swell of the USmail: 3 Ames Street; Cambridge, MA 02139 | sea, unburied and unmourned." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------