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From: COK@PSUVMA.BITNET (R. W. Clark, K. S. C.)
Newsgroups: news.admin,misc.legal,alt.flame
Subject: Shall we move this?  (Re: Social Consience)
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Date: Tue, 17-Nov-87 11:50:01 EST
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Posted: Tue Nov 17 11:50:01 1987
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In article <1378 MUNSELL> Joel Jennings writes:
     
[A lot of very reasonable suggestions and good ideas.]
     
Well, I suppose this makes him the first in this debate to say anything
constructive.
     
So you won't have to flip back to the article right now, I'll just summarize.
He said that all this net.bitching is not accomplishing anything and that
it would make sense to take action and establish some form of enforced
net.etiquette.  He makes a moving call:  "Actions, not words!"  I move that
we start talking about it immediately.  However, alt.flame is not really the
place to start this.  Perhaps news.admin, news.sysadmin, or misc.legal
would be acceptable places for it.
     
It might be a good idea to start a talk.netnews or netnews.d newsgroup to
discuss the establishment of a formalized system of netiquette.  After
a set period of discussion, we could nominate a committee who would
eventually produce a joint resolution on the subject.  This would be given
to the Powers that Be, who would eventually accept it.
     
We could start by suggesting the creation of a talk.netnews group (somewhat
similar to news.admin, except wholly devoted to netiquette discussion and
discussions which would take up a lot of time on news.admin).  If this is
impossible, an alt.netnews newsgroup might be a better idea.  The way to start
is to post an article to news.groups on the subject.  I've come up with this
suggestion for a phase of the formalized netiquette development process.
I'll let someone else decide to start the creation of the newsgroup, or the
beginning of discussion in misc.legal and news.admin.
     
I welcome email.
     
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